In his latest article, Mr. Dan said, “Running an 11-27 off a 50x34, that’s 32 total teeth and you’d probably be pushing you’re luck.”
Do you agree, that you are luck if you run a 11-27 cogset with 50-34 chainring?
HH
If you need that much range, why not just use a triple?
the statement i made was in relation to standard cage rear derailleur. if you use long cage, no problem.
Exactly. What is wrong or not desierable with using a triple?
“What is wrong or not desierable with using a triple?”
ii can’t speak for others, but for me using a double is a language i understand. i can shift quickly, i know where to go with the gears, it’s precise, i’m in the gear i need to be almost instantaneously, and i have all the gears i need if i have enough range between the big and small rings. for me, a double is way easier than a triple.
On my training wheels on my road bike I run a 12/27 at the back and a 53/39 at the front. I am really happy with this setup, as it allows me to focus on both cadence and strength without changing my wheels.
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Triples are finicky to tune for good shifting. Way back when, I gave up on tuning mine and shifted to a friction shifter for the front.
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If you have a special crankset (e.g. SRM), you gotta stick with a double
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Triples don’t work with the big rings
I use a 56-42,11-26 combo for TTs. No triple will match this range.
-j
So far, luckily, no issues with the shifting on the front. The rear is skipping a couple cogs in the middle, but I think that is breaking in issues.
No SRM or other power yet so no problems there.
Since I am not spinning out what I have, that is a problem I can grow into.
My thought on why to go with the triple is that the only thing worse than a granny gear is getting off and walking. I am willing to tackle most hills and like the ability to truly bail out.
Am I the only one who got this?
There used to be an ad for a furniture store in my area that read “Touch all four bases and your home!”
Maybe it comes from my grandmother, the English teacher.
Am I the only one who got this?
There used to be an ad for a furniture store in my area that read “Touch all four bases and your home!”
Maybe it comes from my grandmother, the English teacher.
Apparently so. Grammar patrol must be on vacation, or maybe they are watching the tour.
HH
Is it possible that all this “new” stuff just plain sucks? Or is it more likely that I’m just to dull to notice what a “good shift” is.
I own two bikes. One I paid 300$ for and it has a triple bottom of the line Sora 8sp setup. The other I paid a bit more for and has a new Dura Ace 10sp. I’ve dropped the chain WAY more on the Dura Ace setup. Have 10X the miles on the Sora setup and so far, after only 700-800 miles on the Dura Ace, the only benefit to the DA stuff is that it shifts a bit quicker and much better under high load, I.E. Up a hill…Oh and it’s lighter and the chain goes on a bit easier once dropped…thank god.
IOW you mention “Triples are Finicky” Mine sure isn’t. I pretty much neglect it, rarely clean it, ride it in rain, some mud, and probably have 7-8K miles on it. The only thing I ever do is change the chain once a year and have a tune up on this Sora triple cheapo and rarely have any issues with it. Is it possible that liek many things the “cheap” stuff is simply more “bomb proof”?
As far as “I use a 56-42,11-26 combo for TTs. No triple will match this range.” this confuses me. My old 8sp setup with a triple has 24 available gears. How is it that I can’t match or exceed the range of 20 gears on a double. Is it just a matter of what’s commercially available?
~Matt
We have a tool shop nearby that was moving from one location to another. However there was a problem with the building that they were moving to so teh deal fell thru. Unfortuntely they had sent out all the “We are moving” info already. So on the door to teh place they were going to move to reads a sign. “We are presently at our current location”…I have no idea what this means unless it it’s a play on something like “Wherever you go, there you are”…
~Matt…not one whom should EVER correct anyones grammer…or spellering abalitioes…
To be fair, I should have said the DA and Ultegra triples I had were finicky. The Sora (or other low end shimano ) triples I’ve rented in Hawaii have worked pretty well.
Yes you do have more gears with a triple. But the biggest you can go is a 52x11. That’s inadequate for many (if not most) of the TTs I do.
–jens
“But the biggest you can go is a 52x11. That’s inadequate for many (if not most) of the TTs I do.”
Gotcha. I was thinking more on the low end for hill climbing. A nice granny gear plus some decent top end type of thing. I’d agree that unless you’re doing a hilly course a triple seems like overkill. I never use my little gear on anything other than big hills.
“I should have said the DA and Ultegra triples I had were finicky.”
I’m also wondering if the 8sp triple may be “less finicky” than the 9’s and 10’s due to the cross over being less. I have no idea but I can say my cheapo’ is ALOT less “finicky” than my DA.
~Matt
did i miss an earlier discussion of an 11-25…to me that seems like the gearing that would be more necessary than 11-27. I’ve never understood why no one makes that combo. I think a 27 is overkill for most unless doing some REALLY brutal climbing…for most I think 39-25 is sufficient…