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A new $500 power-meter in the works?
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting...I like all the new competition for PMs...it will make the entire market better - consumers win.
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [blueraider_mike] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like the love child of Vectors and Stages.
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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hope its a quality product, then consumers will win
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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Looks great and too good to be true all at the same time. I hope it really is as good as it looks.
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like this is a very recent development. Wonder what the release date is. Certainly glad to see another power meter (and with a relatively cheap cost).


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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [Zenmaster28] [ In reply to ]
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Zenmaster28 wrote:
Looks great and too good to be true all at the same time. I hope it really is as good as it looks.

Let's hope. Remember that the vector was also supposed to be a price-point game changer (sub $1000) and available back in 2009!
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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If you can put two sensors and two computers that each have to communicate wirlessly for $500

imagine what you could do if you put one sensor in the spider, with one computer?

$250? =)



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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like crap that wouldn't last a season, but if they actually bring it to market it could help lower prices on other meters. While I have nothing concrete to base this on, I suspect there are several meters that could come down 40-50% and still have a reasonable profit margin.
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for posting. I want to get a powermeter this fall and use it to train up over the winter. I an thinking powertap, but I may consider this one.
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [beston] [ In reply to ]
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beston wrote:
Zenmaster28 wrote:
Looks great and too good to be true all at the same time. I hope it really is as good as it looks.


Let's hope. Remember that the vector was also supposed to be a price-point game changer (sub $1000) and available back in 2009!

x2 on this...


but it does look good!!!!


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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [LuisDF] [ In reply to ]
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That is one of the most innovative looking power meters I have ever seen. Very interesting

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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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This would be fantastic...I hope it works and they're right about the price point.

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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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WOW, has my attention. I wonder if its able to be swapped easily

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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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Well, at least we know it will actually increase power output, since they use "accelerators" ;-)

Hmmm...looks like that sort of system is going to REQUIRE a user torque slope calibration...



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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
If you can put two sensors and two computers that each have to communicate wirlessly for $500

imagine what you could do if you put one sensor in the spider, with one computer?

$250? =)

Yeah, but then it wouldn't be the "GOLD" standard anymore . . . .
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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Is this just Stages without the preassembled crank arm (and 2 sensors) or is it measuring power in a fundamentally different way?

If it is consistent and measuring something close to real power, $500 is starting to get into the range where "good enough" might be acceptable.
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [STP] [ In reply to ]
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Is this just Stages without the preassembled crank arm (and 2 sensors) or is it measuring power in a fundamentally different way?

Well the sensor is in a different spot, so the extent to which it is the same as stages is sorta the same extent to which all power meters are the same. Slap a strain gauge somewhere in the drivetrain!

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If it is consistent and measuring something close to real power, $500 is starting to get into the range where "good enough" might be acceptable.

In other words, if it works good enough, it will be good enough?

I agree!



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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
STP wrote:
Is this just Stages without the preassembled crank arm (and 2 sensors) or is it measuring power in a fundamentally different way?


Well the sensor is in a different spot, so the extent to which it is the same as stages is sorta the same extent to which all power meters are the same. Slap a strain gauge somewhere in the drivetrain!

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If it is consistent and measuring something close to real power, $500 is starting to get into the range where "good enough" might be acceptable.


In other words, if it works good enough, it will be good enough?

I agree!

Is it just me or does it look like the drive-side sensor/unit wouldn't survive a dropped chain very well?

Overall, way too much marketing stench with this thing ranging from "accelerators" to this choice quote:

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"Built from rods and springs, our worldwide patented mechanical sensor attaches easily to both of your crank arms. It senses your pedal stroke up to the millisecond, recording the direct and immediate torque that you apply."

Worldwide patent! Millisecond torque measurement! Wow!
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [aravilare] [ In reply to ]
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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I'm just wondering if the "Starting at $499" version is just for one side of the crank. Their ad text does seem to imply both sides but I'm left wondering what the fancier versions would provide beyond the base unit. Perhaps cranks with the units already installed?

What ever the case, competition in the market place is almost always a good thing.

Hugh

Genetics load the gun, lifestyle pulls the trigger.
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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They should eliminate those wires and have the sensor mounted inside the unit.
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [STP] [ In reply to ]
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No, it doesn't look like an external Stages clone. That sensor stack is very unique. ...and REALLY interesting. It still looks reliant on the flex of the crank arm, but in a geometrically different way. From what you can gather from the quick clip in the video, that patented algorithm they mention is likely doing some serious massaging of the signals they're getting.
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Re: A new $500 power-meter in the works? [Dilbert] [ In reply to ]
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Dilbert wrote:
They should eliminate those wires and have the sensor mounted inside the unit.

I don't think you could do that without gluing/taping the entire box to your crank arm. And the wire likely provides some strain relief so the sensor isn't influenced by anything other than the crank arm flex.

But, yeah, it's asking to get snagged on something...the dropped chain scenario could be pretty bad.
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