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Re: when do you DNS? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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Why do you think that you would get sick?
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Re: when do you DNS? [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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oh, just being out racing hard in the cold wet weather for a few hours i guess. i've got two little kids at home, so it's always a knife-edge!

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Re: when do you DNS? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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Racing hard doesn't make you sick.

Cold, wet weather doesn't make you sick.
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Re: when do you DNS? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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10 and raining would actually be attractive to me I think. Depends on how "pouring" though.

As for when to DNS, that's tough to say.

If I were sick, or seriously doubting the safety of the race regardless of the organizers, or if higher priorities in life unexpectedly arose.
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Re: when do you DNS? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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If you are sick or injured, often a dns is the better part of valor. Neither of these is the case here. Throw on a gabba, do the race. You’ll feel better having done it than kicking yourself later for having flaked.

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Re: when do you DNS? [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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jimatbeyond wrote:
Racing hard doesn't make you sick.

Cold, wet weather doesn't make you sick.

ok jim, thanks

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Re: when do you DNS? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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I have Raynauds - 10 degrees and rain and I’m definitely not starting. That said, I also don’t pick events that have much of a chance of causing that to happen so it’s addressed on the front end 95% of the time.
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Re: when do you DNS? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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These days, I'll dns when I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to have fun at a race. I don't want racing to feel like a chore.






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Re: when do you DNS? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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to me, it looks like you are not going to start, only by writing this post
motivation is not there and therefore fun will not be there.
do the pay you? No, I guess
you are just wasting the registration money
also, what is the risk of DNF if you start? please consider it
better DNF or DNS?
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Re: when do you DNS? [Vols] [ In reply to ]
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Vols wrote:
I have Raynauds - 10 degrees and rain and I’m definitely not starting. That said, I also don’t pick events that have much of a chance of causing that to happen so it’s addressed on the front end 95% of the time.

me too! it's generally a non-issue racing, but my last big race finished at altitude in sunny but chilly-ish weather. by the time i'd started my post-race meal my fingers were going white and waxy.

after 90 minutes of cycling in cold and rainy conditions, i'm not sure i'd be able to get my shoes on unless i'd ridden with gloves!

anyway we'll see - the forecasts are pretty dynamic. for now they're getting worse (from 'strong rain' to 'thunder storms') but it's tricky because the weather at the moment is excellent.

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Re: when do you DNS? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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My 2 cents:

If I have something wrong and it's going to make it worse, I DNS.

If something goes wrong during my race and continuing is going to make it worse, I DNF (it's happened once in 30+ years of racing across all disciplines)

Other than that, everything is manageable including your expectations.

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Re: when do you DNS? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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iron_mike wrote:
Vols wrote:
I have Raynauds - 10 degrees and rain and I’m definitely not starting. That said, I also don’t pick events that have much of a chance of causing that to happen so it’s addressed on the front end 95% of the time.

me too! it's generally a non-issue racing, but my last big race finished at altitude in sunny but chilly-ish weather. by the time i'd started my post-race meal my fingers were going white and waxy.

after 90 minutes of cycling in cold and rainy conditions, i'm not sure i'd be able to get my shoes on unless i'd ridden with gloves!

anyway we'll see - the forecasts are pretty dynamic. for now they're getting worse (from 'strong rain' to 'thunder storms') but it's tricky because the weather at the moment is excellent.

So, wear your gloves; bring them with you, at least

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Re: when do you DNS? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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Never. Those of us dealing with crippling anxiety know getting to the starting line is harder than actually doing the race. Developing toughness, consistency, and resiliency, and not being a pussy is a large percentage of the lessons leaned and value from this sport. The physical part is secondary, in my case.
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Re: when do you DNS? [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
These days, I'll dns when I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to have fun at a race. I don't want racing to feel like a chore.

DNS when you know you won't be able to get anything positive out of starting (or the negatives will outweigh the positives) - what that means for you is dependant on your own motivations and situation. eg
  • if you're in it for fun and its not going to be fun then why do it?
  • if you're in it for a good performance (whatever that means for you) and you know you're not going to have a good day then unless you can pivot to a different motivation why do it
  • if you're in it to challenge yourself then there is always purpose
  • if you have an injury that will be further damaged then very few reasons to do it

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Re: when do you DNS? [FasterTwitch] [ In reply to ]
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FasterTwitch wrote:
Never. Those of us dealing with crippling anxiety know getting to the starting line is harder than actually doing the race. Developing toughness, consistency, and resiliency, and not being a pussy is a large percentage of the lessons leaned and value from this sport. The physical part is secondary, in my case.

Yeah I have crippling anxiety too and also have had mini panic attacks including on the swim at Boulder 140.6 2019. Even when I get in the zone sometimes it feels too easy and causes a mini panic attack for me. If my HR is too high, more worry etc. By the time I get to the run, I’m happy my bike didn’t fail and then just stress out about overheating.

Each race start is hard for me with a lot of butterflies, but at the end of the day it’s not your thoughts that matter as much as your actions.

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Re: when do you DNS? [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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I DNS a race because my wife went into labor.
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Re: when do you DNS? [Motoarch] [ In reply to ]
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Motoarch wrote:
I DNS a race because my wife went into labor.


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Re: when do you DNS? [MrRabbit] [ In reply to ]
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MrRabbit wrote:
Motoarch wrote:
I DNS a race because my wife went into labor.


Quitter

Lol




You're right :(
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Re: when do you DNS? [Motoarch] [ In reply to ]
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Motoarch wrote:
I DNS a race because my wife went into labor.

Same, but was a marathon and not an A Race.
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Re: when do you DNS? [Vols] [ In reply to ]
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I also have Raynauds and am careful about what races I pick. I can usually avoid races where water is in the 50's, but if there is unexpected cold rain there is no sense in me even starting.
I ended up in the medical tent once with hypothermia after a cold swim and would rather DNS.
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