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https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/...e-anita-carcone.html

those messages she sent to me (the pollack)
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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are you the blogger that caught her initially? i read this on Marathon Investigation this morning, and man some of the things she says are disturbing.
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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What a piece of work that one is. She cut the course and claims victory, gets caught the denies, then edits files to try and match the course, then admits that probably they hate people from Arizona and sent her on the wrong course. The cheating in this one goes deep, and super glad she is not my kids teacher.

The vitriol she spewed at the end was so classless that I now think this should all be brought to her bosses attention. Let them know who they really have working for them..

I love how almost all of you now have to have a gadget to race with, all she had to do was just race blind and her cheating ways would never have been known. And then to post up the evidence of her cheating online, and she is a teacher, priceless...
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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Wow. Just, wow. I got onto her FB page and started 'liking' one or two of the comments pointing out the problems with her 'explanations' and I was quickly blocked. A teacher. Geesh.
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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synthetic wrote:
those messages she sent to me (the pollack)

WOW!!!! That's some fucked-up Mike Rossi-level abuse [I won't re-post the screenshot, out of respect for you]

And bad fucking grammar/spelling, besides

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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [Pmswanepoel] [ In reply to ]
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Things like this are so interesting from a personality/psychology perspective. Did she knowingly cut the bike course, or accidentally do it and then got so much validation from the results, that she either convinced herself she didn't cheat or decided to lash out at anyone calling her out for cheating (even if it was inadvertent) rather than admitting the mistake (or the wrong doing)? Then going so far as to edit the ride, then doubling down and resorting to name calling when continued to be called out.

A stark contrast to some of the posts I've seen where someone accidentally cut the course and then DQ'd themselves once they realized it.
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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I had no idea there was a cold war between Cali and Arizona. You learn something new every day.

She's unhinged and it's disturbing. Can only hope she gets help.
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [mbwallis] [ In reply to ]
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Next thing you know, she'll be punching someone at a Kenny Chesney concert

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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Rather that than the alternatives that she alludes too.

Very interesting read. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [monty] [ In reply to ]
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I'm mid 30's and it still baffles me, how to manipulate an post workout garmin file, but I guess I'm very non-tech savy with stuff like that.

ETA: Like how to make sure you covered every detail of the new corrupted file so that it's a seamless no questions asks new workout file, is above my pay grade.

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Last edited by: B_Doughtie: Jul 16, 18 8:52
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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BTW: He's had a couple other triathlon stories on there

https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/category/triathlon

... but nothing like this

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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
BTW: He's had a couple other triathlon stories on there

https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/category/triathlon

... but nothing like this

both in San Diego area ? Giving SD a bad name eventhough she was from AZ
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [ttusomeone] [ In reply to ]
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ttusomeone wrote:
Things like this are so interesting from a personality/psychology perspective. Did she knowingly cut the bike course, or accidentally do it and then got so much validation from the results, that she either convinced herself she didn't cheat or decided to lash out at anyone calling her out for cheating (even if it was inadvertent) rather than admitting the mistake (or the wrong doing)? Then going so far as to edit the ride, then doubling down and resorting to name calling when continued to be called out.

A stark contrast to some of the posts I've seen where someone accidentally cut the course and then DQ'd themselves once they realized it.

Let's say she accidentally cut the bike course and didn't realize it. A person of reasonably sound mind when informed by the RD might initially be upset but then realize when they looked at their data that they made a mistake and didn't ride the entire course. They would admit their mistake or just keep their mouth shut rather than becoming unhinged and threatening everybody.
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [bluemonkeytri] [ In reply to ]
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bluemonkeytri wrote:
are you the blogger that caught her initially? i read this on Marathon Investigation this morning, and man some of the things she says are disturbing.

No I didn't catch her... Even though day of race I suspected something strange people getting the course CR with the shorter distance race, I shrugged it off thinking it was a Strava glitch.

mbwallis wrote:
I had no idea there was a cold war between Cali and Arizona. You learn something new every day.

She's unhinged and it's disturbing. Can only hope she gets help.

Yes there is, many "zonies" come here to escape the heat and trash the beaches
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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B_Doughtie wrote:
I'm mid 30's and it still baffles me, how to manipulate an post workout garmin file, but I guess I'm very non-tech savy with stuff like that.

ETA: Like how to make sure you covered every detail of the new corrupted file so that it's a seamless no questions asks new workout file, is above my pay grade.

All she did was manually change the total distance. Of course, the plots all ended early, so it was a pretty dumb coverup.

The easiest way to tag on the extra distance is to go back out there, ride the extra 6 miles, then merge the two workout files. The date/time stamps in the tcx file would reveal your cheatery, but strava would not give you away. Some sort of python script could go through every line of the second ride and adjust the date/times to match the first ride. If you do every second recording, it would be easy to do it manually.
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [dfroelich] [ In reply to ]
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dfroelich wrote:
B_Doughtie wrote:
I'm mid 30's and it still baffles me, how to manipulate an post workout garmin file, but I guess I'm very non-tech savy with stuff like that.

ETA: Like how to make sure you covered every detail of the new corrupted file so that it's a seamless no questions asks new workout file, is above my pay grade.


All she did was manually change the total distance. Of course, the plots all ended early, so it was a pretty dumb coverup.

The easiest way to tag on the extra distance is to go back out there, ride the extra 6 miles, then merge the two workout files. The date/time stamps in the tcx file would reveal your cheatery, but strava would not give you away. Some sort of python script could go through every line of the second ride and adjust the date/times to match the first ride. If you do every second recording, it would be easy to do it manually.

F that... I'd rather DQ myself... even easier
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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I've never worked directly with .fit files, but if one were to convert it to .gpx you could import it into your favorite GIS software, edit/add vertices to the polyline along the known course, then add data into the attributes so the new vertices have manipulated metrics, and then when you import it back into garmin/strava it should look normal. . . I think :))

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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [dfroelich] [ In reply to ]
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That's what I mean, like if you don't "cover it up" properly you look like an doofus. You can't just change the end miles because the graph/gps points will still show only 12 mile ride, etc. So then it kinda makes you think....if someone really can doctor a file properly, how would you know the difference?

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-USAT Level II
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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synthetic wrote:
https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2018/07/disqualified-triathlete-anita-carcone.html

those messages she sent to me (the pollack)

I was going to look at the results after reading her initial post about 3 minutes behind the males pro coming off injury and a hospital stay. Went to look at the results... why are there no swim times for anyone?


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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [AlyraD] [ In reply to ]
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dfroelich wrote:
B_Doughtie wrote:
I'm mid 30's and it still baffles me, how to manipulate an post workout garmin file, but I guess I'm very non-tech savy with stuff like that.

ETA: Like how to make sure you covered every detail of the new corrupted file so that it's a seamless no questions asks new workout file, is above my pay grade.


All she did was manually change the total distance. Of course, the plots all ended early, so it was a pretty dumb coverup.

The easiest way to tag on the extra distance is to go back out there, ride the extra 6 miles, then merge the two workout files. The date/time stamps in the tcx file would reveal your cheatery, but strava would not give you away. Some sort of python script could go through every line of the second ride and adjust the date/times to match the first ride. If you do every second recording, it would be easy to do it manually.

AlyraD wrote:
I've never worked directly with .fit files, but if one were to convert it to .gpx you could import it into your favorite GIS software, edit/add vertices to the polyline along the known course, then add data into the attributes so the new vertices have manipulated metrics, and then when you import it back into garmin/strava it should look normal. . . I think :))

Or Photoshop the screenshot

I think that's what the original T3 did, but I could be wrong

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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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No double letters in name... clearly this means she's innocent.


synthetic wrote:
https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2018/07/disqualified-triathlete-anita-carcone.html

those messages she sent to me (the pollack)

What's your CdA?
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Didn’t she say she was 3 minutes behind top male pro but 12th in her division?! Wow. That’s one tough female age group!
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
synthetic wrote:
https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2018/07/disqualified-triathlete-anita-carcone.html

those messages she sent to me (the pollack)


I was going to look at the results after reading her initial post about 3 minutes behind the males pro coming off injury and a hospital stay. Went to look at the results... why are there no swim times for anyone?

I think it's just a glitch on the timing website. If you click on individual athletes it shows their swim times.
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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B_Doughtie wrote:
...if someone really can doctor a file properly, how would you know the difference?

She missed a chip mat. That alone is enough to take a second look.

In general though, at a certain point, it is impossible. As detailed above, you can completely fabricate an entire ride by hand. Getting more advanced, but certainly easy enough for a clever coder, you could feed a path into some software which would the learn the elevation profile. You could tell it your desired average power or speed, usual cadence range and some sort of graph of your usual heart rate vs. power. All of these (location, power, speed, HR, cadence) could then be included in the final FIT file with some believable amount of variation.
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Re: triathlete makes it on marathon investigation [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, she's nuts. What are the odds she's not married?
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