How many did you see? I saw alot of them on different teams--wow
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Re: hed bars at the tour [Matt Berner]
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The thing I noticed was all the guys using straight areo bars (Jan Ullich was one). Just straight out from under the base bar. looked very uncomfortable having your wrists twisted down so far.
Jim
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Re: hed bars at the tour [Matt Berner]
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They also could be using MDT's custom carbon aerobars, as well. I would almost bet that David Millar uses them rather than the Oval/Hed ones.
Re: hed bars at the tour [rgr195]
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The thing I noticed was the number of guys using time trial bars set up with Ergo/STI levers. As I recall totally against the consensus of opinion that was voiced on this very forum. Do they not read this ?!!!
Julian in England.
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Julian in England.
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Re: hed bars at the tour [jk_allen13]
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On short courses/technical courses like that, one ends up doing all shifting while breaking into the corners, sprinting out of them, and when climbing.
Re: hed bars at the tour [bunnyman]
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nope, its a HED, note the stem faceplate crossbar:
Are you sure?
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I can't tell from this angle about the faceplate, but I thought the HED's had straight brake levers. Those brakes seem a little long and they bend at the end. Just an observation.
Re: hed bars at the tour [TimeTrial.org]
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Looking at that picture and others on www.cyclingnews.com it doesn't look like a HED, for one the cross-section is too thin. I did notice, however, how many more teams are using a HED 3 front this year than in years past.
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Re: hed bars at the tour [IronDad]
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millar used a hed bar. and a hed3 front wheel. look closely at the photos, however, the sponsors are ITM and campy respectively. we have a story about this that will go up on slowtwitch sunday night or monday morning.
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Re: Are you sure? [Ze Gopha]
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yes, the new HED (bar 2nd edition) has a few different features than the original released model from last april:
levers have a bend
front brake cable guide welded on
carbon cups vs aluminum
levers have a bend
front brake cable guide welded on
carbon cups vs aluminum
Oops...
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Sorry, my bad.
That's them alright...
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Logos changed, but definitely a match to the set on my bike.
Risers under the armpads are added, but everything else is box stock.
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Risers under the armpads are added, but everything else is box stock.
Cousin Elwood - Team Over-the-hill Racing
Brought to you by the good folks at Metamucil and Geritol...
Re: hed bars at the tour [TimeTrial.org]
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You got me there, Gary. I need to get my cataracts looked over.
Re: hed bars at the tour [bunnyman]
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he cant really blame his mechanic for his chain falling off, he was riding only 1 ring on his bike wihout a front derailleur over cobblestones - he took the risk and should have known that there was nothing to keep his chain on his ring should it hop off.
Re: hed bars at the tour [TimeTrial.org]
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how comfie are these bars?
looking at the pix, it seems he is holding them just at the tip, not a lot of grasp...
are they as short as the oval for ex?
strange choice the 1 CR thing...specially on a flat stuff where weight does not matter whatsoever.
looking at the pix, it seems he is holding them just at the tip, not a lot of grasp...
are they as short as the oval for ex?
strange choice the 1 CR thing...specially on a flat stuff where weight does not matter whatsoever.
Re: hed bars at the tour [TimeTrial.org]
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A simple piece of aluminium on the bottom bracket could have kept his chain on (or got it back on quickly) at a minimum weight penalty. That's the part to blame his mechanic on.
Re: hed bars at the tour [bunnyman]
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If I'm not mistaken I think I heard that Cofidis had the bike rigged without a front Derraillure, know ing that a front der shift would not be needed , maybe to save a bit of weight. By why wouldnt they use it simply as a chain guide, knowing they have to fly over cobbled roads at mach speed. MIllar wasn;t the only one on Cofdis to lose a chain I heard.
From the pic of MIllar above, the front der. braze on looks empty to me.
From the pic of MIllar above, the front der. braze on looks empty to me.
Re: hed bars at the tour [schumacher 1]
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The piece I speak of is a 100mm long, 15 gram piece of aluminium mounted onto the bottom bracket. I have one on my Samantha (Corima Fox) for use on my Bartol system, and it is magic.
It is silly to not run something, even if it is a 75 or so gram front mech as a chain guide for a single chainring.
It is silly to not run something, even if it is a 75 or so gram front mech as a chain guide for a single chainring.
Re: hed bars at the tour [bunnyman]
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Se cyclingnews.com for article on Millar lashing out at Cofidis mangagement again..something about not being able to procur enough Campy TT chainrings..and having to use something aftermarket??
Re: hed bars at the tour [TimeTrial.org]
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>he cant really blame his mechanic for his chain falling off, he was >riding only 1 ring on his bike wihout a front derailleur over >cobblestones - he took the risk and should have known that there >was nothing to keep his chain on his ring should it hop off.
Well, I certainly think the team management and mechs can be blamed when 5 riders all experience the same issue. Remember, not all riders have the freedom to dictate equipment choices like LA. Cofidis is a French team. You ride what they give you without much argument. I say, once again Cofidis is left with egg on its face.
Well, I certainly think the team management and mechs can be blamed when 5 riders all experience the same issue. Remember, not all riders have the freedom to dictate equipment choices like LA. Cofidis is a French team. You ride what they give you without much argument. I say, once again Cofidis is left with egg on its face.
cobbles + no front derailleur = chain drop
duh
duh