Did anyone see if they posted Gilberts power numbers up the cauberg from worlds this year?
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Re: gilbert road worlds power numbers? [%FTP]
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%FTP wrote:
Did anyone see if they posted Gilberts power numbers up the cauberg from worlds this year?
Re: gilbert road worlds power numbers? [echappist]
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echappist wrote:
%FTP wrote:
Did anyone see if they posted Gilberts power numbers up the cauberg from worlds this year?given these two photos, what do you think?
Re: gilbert road worlds power numbers? [gregf83]
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Look closer, and you'll see that he didn't ride with a SRM during worlds. Nor did he do it during stage 19 of the Vuelta. The Shimano SRM is a two-piece construction, and the crank arms are not directly attached to the spider. Everything on the 7900 is in one piece.
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Re: gilbert road worlds power numbers? [echappist]
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The 2nd picture looks like an SRM crank to me. Why would he change?
Re: gilbert road worlds power numbers? [echappist]
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looks like a SRM to me in the picture
Re: gilbert road worlds power numbers? [echappist]
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Second picture is an SRM but he is on a standard 7900 on the first one!
Re: gilbert road worlds power numbers? [echappist]
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My armchair analysis has for many years been this:
Professional rider crosses (mountain top) finish line and immediately stops/checks SRM: clean rider that tries to maximize work capacity by tracking input/output. Recent sighting: Hesjedahl at Giro.
Professional rider competes sans PM: power production is not correlated to CTL, ATL, TSB or whatever, but must rather be hidden from the world at all cost. Recorded power data could come back and bite you! Recent sighting: Reborn Gilbert at Worlds.
For other armchair analysist: don't accuse me of being cynical about professional cycling. Puleeze...
Compare with olympic marathoners: from ~10th place down, everyone stops their watch on crossing the line and check performance, including splits. Input/output...
Edit 2, look at this "numbers guy" at 2004 Alpe d'Huez:
Professional rider crosses (mountain top) finish line and immediately stops/checks SRM: clean rider that tries to maximize work capacity by tracking input/output. Recent sighting: Hesjedahl at Giro.
Professional rider competes sans PM: power production is not correlated to CTL, ATL, TSB or whatever, but must rather be hidden from the world at all cost. Recorded power data could come back and bite you! Recent sighting: Reborn Gilbert at Worlds.
For other armchair analysist: don't accuse me of being cynical about professional cycling. Puleeze...
Compare with olympic marathoners: from ~10th place down, everyone stops their watch on crossing the line and check performance, including splits. Input/output...
Edit 2, look at this "numbers guy" at 2004 Alpe d'Huez:
Re: gilbert road worlds power numbers? [gregf83]
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gregf83 wrote:
The 2nd picture looks like an SRM crank to me. Why would he change?the second pic of course is a different race than Worlds. Why would he choose not to use one at Worlds? In a road race like that, last race of the year, he obviously doesn't need it during the race. When you attack to win the race you're not looking at your PM. The only reason he'd want it is to analyze data afterward. So maybe he wanted to use what was lighter and/or stiffer (not saying that makes any difference ... but that might be the thinking) to give any little advantage he could get.
Re: gilbert road worlds power numbers? [Nicko]
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Nicko wrote:
Professional rider competes sans PM: power production is not correlated to CTL, ATL, TSB or whatever, but must rather be hidden from the world at all cost. Recorded power data could come back and bite you! Recent sighting: Reborn Gilbert at Worlds.I think Brian's explanation of last race of the year and no need to look at the data afterwards is more likely.
Re: gilbert road worlds power numbers? [gregf83]
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gregf83 wrote:
The 2nd picture looks like an SRM crank to me. Why would he change?---------------------
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gregf83 wrote:
Nicko wrote:
Professional rider competes sans PM: power production is not correlated to CTL, ATL, TSB or whatever, but must rather be hidden from the world at all cost. Recorded power data could come back and bite you! Recent sighting: Reborn Gilbert at Worlds.I think Brian's explanation of last race of the year and no need to look at the data afterwards is more likely.
he didn't use a SRM in either one of his Vuelta wins. Some people never raced with a PM and probably just don't want to deal with it.
Cancellara does the same thing. He actually won the 2010 RvV with a SRM and then rode without one the following week