if anything the carbon shoes protect more against stress fractures. So the question now is, are you eating enough? Under eating is main cause of most my stress fractures and other injuries

I could see a scenario where a carbon plated shoe could expediate a stress fracture, but it was probably already forming in the first place.

if anything the carbon shoes protect more against stress fractures. So the question now is, are you eating enough? Under eating is main cause of most my stress fractures and other injuries

every other day only cause thats what the bottle said to do.

are you a real doctor??? Also what tissue?

If so you would have a study showing that a carbon plate on a shoe "increase the rate of force development in the tissues "

Also what tissue?

If so you would have a study showing that a carbon plate on a shoe "increase the rate of force development in the tissues "

but my left foot felt a little funny .......

........and as it turns out, I have a stress fracture in my fibia.

Just curious on people's thoughts on this.

I bought endorphin pro and ran in them for a few (4-5) training sessions (6-7 tempo miles) to prep for a 70.3, but most runs I wore other training shoes. These are my first pair of carbon shoes.

They seemed fine, but my left foot felt a little funny for portions of those runs which I attributed to my superfeet inserts. I really don't know what it was.

Then I used the Pros in the 70.3 and decided not to use my superfeet inserts. First time race day changes are never a great idea. Felt that same funny feeling in my foot during the race but like the other runs it was short lived.

After the race I was limping badly and as it turns out, I have a stress fracture in my fibia.

The fracture could be attributed to a ton of things, but I am wondering if maybe the Pro isnt the right shoe for me or maybe carbon shoes in general or was my body so used to the inserts that it didnt adapt well to not having it? I dont really know how to evaluate whether a shoe is a problem for me as I've never had a problem with any pair of shoes I've owned before. I am not particular to any brand and have had many different pairs over the years.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

DrAlexHarrison wrote:

Haha shots fired! Hoping you're trolling. But in case not, and for the peanut gallery:

"Real" as in "medical?" If this, then no, I'm not a real Dr.

Or "real" as in actually has PhD and extensive study in relevant field? If this, then yes, I suppose I'm a real Dr. I generally include the "Dr" in my screennames to have reasonable levels of instant credibility on topics on which I opine. I can see that it has backfired in this case.

Triathletetoth wrote:

Also what tissue?

Any tissue involved in the transmission of force through the stance limb during running gait, including primarily muscles, tendons, and bones, but also ligaments, fascia, and a few other things I'm likely leaving out.

Triathletetoth wrote:

If so you would have a study showing that a carbon plate on a shoe "increase the rate of force development in the tissues "

Yes, if this were expert witness testimony, I certainly would.

I didn't reply to you because there was not enough information for to form a proper conclusion.

So you replied and questioned someone else's credentials. COOL.

You ran a few times in a shoe and then got hurt and are looking that it maybe the shoe??

I am not blaming the shoe. I was simply curious if others were experiencing issues with this newer technology that may impact some of our form and bodies differently than what we have used for years.

I don't know your bw wt, run style, run speed, 70.3 terrian. bike and swim skill to get to the run with enough energy to run well.

Do bikers blame there tires for their back and neck pain. Do swimmers blame their wetsuits for a froze shoulder.

Only some because it is easier then blaming themselves.

I am sorry you got a stress fracture it likely would have happened no matter what shoes you had.

Yeah maybe. I felt great throughout training. Never had an ounce of pain in that area. That doesn't mean it hadn't been building over time and just happened to fracture on race day. Something just didn't feel right about that shoe and I certainly made a mistake not wearing my inserts which my body was used to.

lastly force applied to the body and bones doesn't come from the shoe or the ground it comes from your weight with gravity and your limb position. try holding 30 lbs near your heart then take your arm out in front of you straight.

That increase stress isn't the gloves you were to hold the weight with. it was gravity and levels.

This is a terrible comparison. Apples and oranges. Where does all of the weight with gravity land when running and do carbon shoes impact limb position (in me/others)? Lots of factors and I do think shoes can be one of them, they certainly are when people run in overused shoes.

I didn't focus on you because I don't train you or know how you move, but you can't make up carbon fiber shoes increase stress fractures. ?????? just stupid.