Also, I fail to see where clinically observed "swooning" comes into play in the study

Were there women subjects who were offered photos of six-packed men vs. dad-bodded men while their blood pressure, heart rate, and respiration were monitored [key components in "swooning"]?? ?

I'm sure there are more Masters/Johnson-flavored observables, but we'll leave those for another place & time

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

I just asked my female friend sitting next to me (she is a thin but not unhealthy thin runner) and she said and I quote, "I feel the only justification is that if we let our partners get a dad bod, then it allows us to let ourselves go a little bit as well and they can't say anything to us about gaining a few pounds. It is also a bit of security like if we are in great shape and they aren't then they probably wont cheat on us. They are also better to hug, softer, than a guy who feels like a roman statue. So if I were just dating a guy or booty calling - I want a roman statue. If I were to get into a long term relationship with someone, he would probably have a very very mild dad bod"

and here I thought it was my shit personality and commitment issues that are keeping me single - turns out its my abs! Who knew haha

Your shit story, more likely

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=6777308#p6777308

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

The Dad Bod is so 2017.

(as is that article)

So it is

The PF Press release is still fresh, though

https://www.planetfitness.com/...-rise-2019-more-ever

< I guess the SF Gate refreshed the link to the newer report? >

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

Interesting... but I really don't care what that survey says in terms of the body type I intend to have, triathlon or not.

Also interesting that Planet Fitness is behind the survey... some of the questions are a little leading IMO. I'd really like to see the survey as it was presented to people.

It's true. Wherever I go I can't get ladies to stop swooning. There's so much swooning, all over the place. It's getting kinda annoying, actually. I need to lose a few more pounds around my middle so they'll stop swooning so much....

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Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly

In a way, they're kinda smart

First, they get you motivated to choose their brand by offering state-of-the-art equipment and the Judgement Free Zone

Then, they say "y'know, it's OK if you're not getting the exact results you wanted; we still respect you, and you're doing great"

Gyms make money when you DON'T come in, but just let them bill you on & on & on, in case you say "Hey! I should do a 5K someday" and actually make a visit

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

D'Kid and I were at Philadelphia's Magic Gardens a couple Fridays ago. We were having a great day, and she had someone get a pic of us. Yeah, well, since I haven't been running for a couple months - only cycling - I've got a baby Dad-Bod. Not such that anyone but me would even notice. The spare tire, such as it is, is barely a bicycle tire [honestly, I'm only 8-10 lbs above MY "race weight"]

"You look fine. Dad bods are cool" she tried to console me
"Nope. Unacceptable"

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

Determining what women are attracted to is pretty difficult to figure out. I think there is some truth in that women do prefer that their partner is not more fit or leaner than them. It does bring up a lot of insecurities among many women who struggle with body image issues. I lost close to 25lbs this offseason and got really lean. I think it got under my wife’s skin initially. She hated it. I don’t think it bothers her so much anymore, but I was within about 10lbs of her weight, which was kind of an eye opener for both of us. She was doing a lot of tactful things like buying foods I told her I had given up. She would bring home stuff like peanut M&m’s, ice cream and Pringle’s, even after I told her junk food wasn’t going to be part of my diet. I kept telling her this body composition change was performance based and not for appearance. She’s eased up a bit, but I think in the back of her head it’s still there. It has less to do with me and more to do with the image of men and women that the mass media portrays and what is socially acceptable.

Didn't Planet Fitness used to have free pizza days?

My girlfriend and I both do triathlon. I wouldn't say it gets her pissed, because I've been in better shape. But when I recently got into better shape it sort of affected her self-esteem because I had more time to train and she had been skipping workouts. But overall she likes it when I'm cut up provided I don't shave my chest. . .

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Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

I would say "Planet Fittingdis pizza in my mouth". Fitting this, fitness.......whatever. It's a stretch.

When I used to use one in our neighborhood, walking distance, they advertised free pizza night and free bagel morning. I would chuckle at that.

I still think fitness works better as a hobby. I'll even be generous and include the crossfit people into that idea. It's just more conducive to consistency even at the cost of being less well rounded.

I mean, do something as a fitness hobby. Run club, bike club, tri club, tennis, adult soccer, crossfit, hiking, etc... I think it's rare to find someone who's all like "I totally look forward to doing the same exact 30 minutes on the same exact elliptical for the rest of my life while watching Kardashians reruns". Shoot, even toss golf in there if you bother to carry your clubs and walk the 18 holes instead of using the cart. The average course is decently hilly and about 4 miles long. A 4 mile walk with a 20 lb bag ain't nothing.

At hobby based fitness groups and activities, people are generally there because they want to be and because it makes them happy.

Oi - I get the same thing. Im pretty lean but I am also tall and muscular - swimmer/surfer build. I am dropping weight to get to race weight by fall (train heavy, race light) - and everyone just hates on the idea. "You look fine. You look great. You are fit". That is super rad but I don't care how I look haha I want free speed and fat does not allow that (to a certain point then the law of diminishing returns hit). They always have that slight edge in their tone too.

I would PREFER to date a girl as fit or more than I am - she can keep up and understands and is not petty about being fit for sport.

The OG Planet Fitness near me still have free pizza night, free bagel breakfast, and candy out front.

I feel confident I get my $7.50 worth out of my monthly membership fee which i have been paying for 15 years...

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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson

I am neither

I have posted before that D'Wife calls me "skinny little shit"

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

I almost bought this shirt at the Simpsons Kwik-E Mart at Universal Studios. But I already have more T-shirts than I need, so I passed.

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"They're made of latex, not nitroglycerin"

I have found that in much the same way that a tech race shirt makes a pretty effective Invisibility Cloak in the weight room, I've found that a black t-shirt [preferably that of a punk band; for me, anyway] can nicely camouflage a little bit of non-flat tummy

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

You're over thinking it. What women want is $$$$. If one has $$$$ then a Dad Bod is just fine or preferred.

Maybe this is like being fat in years gone by so it appeared that you were wealthy.

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Indoor Triathlete - I thought I was right, until I realized I was wrong.

My wife was not happy when she was gaining weight from being pregnant and I was getting closer to race weight. Our 3rd is 2 months hold and I haven't told her how much I weigh since we found out she was pregnant. No need to wake the sleeping beast!

^ no no no poke the bear! please poke the bear and let us know how it goes! I don't have cable anymore, just Slowtwitch and I need my daily dose of "wooo f*ckin glad I am not you!" haha

i can see that some of you have learned, over the past half-dozen or so years......... nothing. thread locked. and if you have to ask why, then my point is made.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman