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Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Slowman]
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1. alexander
2. potts
3. dkt
alright, i got scolded :) by slowman so...
Potts' season:
2007
1st place Ironman World Championships 70.3, Clearwater, FL (11/10/07)
1st place Escape to Bermuda, Bermuda (10/21/07)
11th place (Top American) World Championships, Hamburg, GER (9/2/07)
2nd place The Great Colorado Triathlon, Longmont, CO (8/12/07)
1st place Pan American Games, Rio de Janerio, BRA (7/15/07)
2nd place Vancouver World Cup, Vancouver, CAN (6/10/07)
1st place Escape From Alcatraz, San Francisco, CA (6/3/07)
1st place USA Triathlon National Championships, Honolulu, HI (5/20/07)
1st place California 70.3 Ironman, Oceanside, CA (3/31/07)
*for others looking for resources, I have a big list on my site at http://iwilltri.com/pro-triathletes/
that can hep you researching...
I'll be back with thompson's in a minute.
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2. potts
3. dkt
alright, i got scolded :) by slowman so...
Potts' season:
2007
1st place Ironman World Championships 70.3, Clearwater, FL (11/10/07)
1st place Escape to Bermuda, Bermuda (10/21/07)
11th place (Top American) World Championships, Hamburg, GER (9/2/07)
2nd place The Great Colorado Triathlon, Longmont, CO (8/12/07)
1st place Pan American Games, Rio de Janerio, BRA (7/15/07)
2nd place Vancouver World Cup, Vancouver, CAN (6/10/07)
1st place Escape From Alcatraz, San Francisco, CA (6/3/07)
1st place USA Triathlon National Championships, Honolulu, HI (5/20/07)
1st place California 70.3 Ironman, Oceanside, CA (3/31/07)
*for others looking for resources, I have a big list on my site at http://iwilltri.com/pro-triathletes/
that can hep you researching...
I'll be back with thompson's in a minute.
//semi retired - old school = http://www.iwilltri.com //
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hectorguatemala: Nov 27, 07 12:14
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [hectorguatemala]
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you gotta put down the creds. go find the creds, otherwise their seasons (according to slowtwitch norms) didn't happen.
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
Dan Empfield
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Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Slowman]
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Has to go the world champ-
Potts, with Crowie a close second.
Adam
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Potts, with Crowie a close second.
Adam
http://cdamaampbell.blogspot.com/
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [collisiontheory]
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Looking only at 2007, I would say definately Potts.
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [StanF]
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"Looking only at 2007, I would say definately Potts."
but... according to you, potts did not race in 2007. wouldn't he need to race in order to win the award? (dang, i was sure he raced!)
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
but... according to you, potts did not race in 2007. wouldn't he need to race in order to win the award? (dang, i was sure he raced!)
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Slowman]
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I'll vote for Potts in the Dibbens "overall" vote. "Male mid-distance pro" should go to Craig Alexander:
* 4th 70.3 World Championships (USA)
* 1st Newfoundland Ironman 70.3 (Canada)
* 1st Vineman Ironman 70.3 (USA)
* 1st Subaru Muskoka Chase Triathlon (Canada)
* 1st Florida Disney Triathlon 70.3 (USA)
* 1st St Croix Ironman 70.3 (USA)
* 4th 70.3 World Championships (USA)
* 1st Newfoundland Ironman 70.3 (Canada)
* 1st Vineman Ironman 70.3 (USA)
* 1st Subaru Muskoka Chase Triathlon (Canada)
* 1st Florida Disney Triathlon 70.3 (USA)
* 1st St Croix Ironman 70.3 (USA)
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Slowman]
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Based on pure 70.3 results, you have to go with Alexander. IF he was fresh at Clearwater, he probably would have won. The guy hasn't lost a 70.3 in, what, two years?? That said....their results are pretty similar, Alexander had 7 victories to Pott's 6. But Potts won when they raced head to head.
I'd go with Potts cause he won the World Champs and he's a former swimmer, which I think is cool. ;-)
Potts
Ironman World Championships 70.3 Clearwater, FL: 1st : 11/10/07
Escape to Bermuda Bermuda: 1st : 10/21/07
Beijing World Cup Beijing, CHN: 18th : 9/16/07
ITU World Championships Hamburg, GER: 11th : 9/2/07
The Great Colorado Triathlon Longmont, CO: 2nd : 8/12/07
Salford World Cup Salford, GBR: 50th : 7/29/07
Pan American Games Rio de Janerio, BRA: 1st : 7/15/07
Hy-Vee World Cup Des Moines, IA: 20th : 6/17/07
Vancouver World Cup Vancouver, CAN: 2nd : 6/10/07
Escape From Alcatraz San Francisco, CA: 1st : 6/3/07
USA Pro Championships Honolulu, HI: 1st : 5/20/07
California 70.3 Ironman Oceanside, CA: 1st : 3/31/07
Crowie
4th Ironman 70.3 World Champs. 2nd Ironman World Championships, Hawaii, USA 1st Newfoundland Ironman 70.3 (Canada) 1st Vineman Ironman 70.3 (USA) 3rd Life Time Fitness Triathlon (USA) 1st Philadelphia Insurance Triathlon (USA) 1st Subaru Muskoka Chase Triathlon (Canada) 1st Florida Disney Triathlon 70.3 (USA) 1st St Croix Ironman 70.3 (USA) 3rd St Anthonys Triathlon(USA) 3rd Panthers Ironman Australia, 1st Australian Long Course Championships
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I'd go with Potts cause he won the World Champs and he's a former swimmer, which I think is cool. ;-)
Potts
Ironman World Championships 70.3 Clearwater, FL: 1st : 11/10/07
Escape to Bermuda Bermuda: 1st : 10/21/07
Beijing World Cup Beijing, CHN: 18th : 9/16/07
ITU World Championships Hamburg, GER: 11th : 9/2/07
The Great Colorado Triathlon Longmont, CO: 2nd : 8/12/07
Salford World Cup Salford, GBR: 50th : 7/29/07
Pan American Games Rio de Janerio, BRA: 1st : 7/15/07
Hy-Vee World Cup Des Moines, IA: 20th : 6/17/07
Vancouver World Cup Vancouver, CAN: 2nd : 6/10/07
Escape From Alcatraz San Francisco, CA: 1st : 6/3/07
USA Pro Championships Honolulu, HI: 1st : 5/20/07
California 70.3 Ironman Oceanside, CA: 1st : 3/31/07
Crowie
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Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [eganski]
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okay, but only 5 of those are mid-distance. the others are irrelevant, unless you want them to count toward the all-around category.
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
Dan Empfield
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Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [jpflores]
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i only see 2 mid-distance races in potts' resume for 07. maybe that's enough to win the award, but how he did in the other races matter only to the degree his golf handicap does.
Dan Empfield
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Dan Empfield
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Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Slowman]
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so mid-distance is based on 70.3 results only. Got it. Duh. :-)
Crowie won Musoka, St. Croix, Aussie LC's, Disney and Vineman...with a 4th at the world champs.
Potts won Oceanside and the World Champs.
I changed my mind.
Best year overall...goes to Crowie. Best 70.3 single race performance...Potts.
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Crowie won Musoka, St. Croix, Aussie LC's, Disney and Vineman...with a 4th at the world champs.
Potts won Oceanside and the World Champs.
I changed my mind.
Best year overall...goes to Crowie. Best 70.3 single race performance...Potts.
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Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Slowman]
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Technically Clearwater is no more a "world championship" than your local half ironman...its just one race director claiming one upmanship over another so aside from depth of field, not sure if it deserves any specific weighting :-).
Regardless, I vote for Craig Alexander.
Dev
Regardless, I vote for Craig Alexander.
Dev
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Slowman]
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Craig Alexander
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Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [devashish paul]
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Considering that when both of these athletes actually competed against each other in a 70.3, Potts won, I think it should go to Potts. Potts won only two events, but when you consider the quality of the competition at Clearwater, I say Potts takes it.
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [devashish paul]
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umm not trying to pick on you paul, but THE 70.3 race that contained THE best 70.3 athletes in the entire world was clearwater. itulong has lost it, and frankly every single pro in the world knows that to really be considered the world champ they'd have to go to clearwater and get past the huge long lists of awsome athletes toeing the line.
the race course/drafting/race director discussion is irrelevant - if wildflower somehow emerged as the place to go and the long list of pros went there I'd be making the same argument....
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the race course/drafting/race director discussion is irrelevant - if wildflower somehow emerged as the place to go and the long list of pros went there I'd be making the same argument....
//semi retired - old school = http://www.iwilltri.com //
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [hectorguatemala]
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But the issue is whether Alexander was recovered enough from Kona to make the head-to-head with Potts at Clearwater a valid indicator of their abilities relative to one another. Potts is an animal, though, and although he's a talented short course racer, I think he's better suited to mid-distance and may head more that way in the coming years. For a swimmer, he's sure a great runner!
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [donm]
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Well if we are going to consider Alexander's recovery, then we should consider all of their trainning, and their complete schedules, but I believe the rules say mid distance results only, and when looking at those, Potts beat Alexander head to head.
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Slowman]
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Definitely Craig Alexander. He was "only" 4th at 70.3 Worlds but had Kona in his legs already.
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Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Klep]
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Again, Kona should not be a consideration, for this particular category.
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [StanF]
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And I wasn't mentioning his result there... just that he had an Ironman in his legs and was still fast enough for 4th.
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Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Slowman]
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Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [ironboom]
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I was just thinking the same thing, didn't he win like 3 or 4 Half-IMs this year?
Plus a few other races.
Portside Athletics Blog
Plus a few other races.
Portside Athletics Blog
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [ironboom]
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"You left out Macca"
i didn't leave him out. i just got the ball rolling. if you think he deserves consideration, make a case. just include his mid-distance events.
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
i didn't leave him out. i just got the ball rolling. if you think he deserves consideration, make a case. just include his mid-distance events.
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
Re: ST Awards: Male mid-distance pro [Slowman]
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I personally think Potts should win the award as he is the world champion, but Macca should be considered.
Mid-distance (70.3)
Ironman 70.3 Hawaii - 1st
Ironman 70.3 Baja - 1st
Silverman Half - 1st
Monaco 70.3 - (DNF - Stolen bike)
http://iron-boom.blogspot.com
Mid-distance (70.3)
Ironman 70.3 Hawaii - 1st
Ironman 70.3 Baja - 1st
Silverman Half - 1st
Monaco 70.3 - (DNF - Stolen bike)
http://iron-boom.blogspot.com
I love Macca, but you can't be serious with this result.