I have ordered Zed 99's Only live once.

Dave

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Dave,

Just out of curiosity how does what you have ordered answer the OP's question?

Mike

He is indirectly asking about money.

Dave

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Just out of curiosity how does what you have ordered answer the OP's question?
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You must be new here. We all are required to live the minute details of each one of Dave's bike gear purchases, returns, sales, more purchases, etc.

Gosh, I remember back to the old days when it was the Velotron, then PC's, was it RC's too, then there was the big Yaqui purchase? And then, of course, there are the endless editorials and advice to anyone who even remotely or indirectly asks about one of these products.

And, now, of course, we all know that the 999's were not enough, he sold them, and you only live once, and that it probably won't affect his overall time, but he'll look good, and his bike will be worth $10,000, and....

Sorry, but I am so sick of this.

Of course, I may just be jealous.

I tried to make a rule that he couldn't talk about the Zed 99s anymore until he actually had physical possession of them...it didn't stick!!!

Also...don't forgot...200mm cranks!!!

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Hey Kid Rock, let me reply directly.

Looking at Zipps data and some independent stuff like Tour magazine, 404s give up very little to 808s and 808s give up very little to 999.

Break it down for yourself-

Can you handle an 808 front and not going to Kona any time soon...
yes? then get an 999 set
no? then get an 909 set

Plan on going to Kona?
and can handle 808 front? get an 808 set
can't handle 808 front? get a 606 set

I'm assuming money isn't an issue and you're set on Zipps.

My feeling is that the 404 set or what ever they are called now, is the best all-around combination. If you go with the 808's then you may need to have a back up set of wheels, at least for the front on really windy race days.

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Dave-
You remind me of a quote from the movie "Hoosiers." It goes something like, "The sun don't shine on the same dog's ass twice, but Mister, you ain't seen a lick of light since you got to this town." You take a beating on this forum and I just haven't figured it out yet.

Here is an example: The OP asks what are you riding and why?

You reply: I have ordered the Zed 99's Only live once.

I can only presume that you meant that you are going to ride Zed 99's (part 1 of the question) and the reason why is because you only live once and who cares about how expensive they are (part 2 of the question).

You then get replies saying (1) you didn't answer the question, or (2) quit talking about your bike stuff I am tired of hearing about it. Both responses seem like a pretty lame way of saying "I don't like you" and certainly don't do anything to help the OP. I see that you post quite a bit. I guess I haven't seen anything that warrants the bashing you get, but maybe I am wrong. You mostly talk about equipment that you like and words of encouragement to others. What am I missing?

Good luck with your wheels and post pics and a review when you get them.

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Yes, I think they would be great..... I finally got out on a deep front wheel the other day and didn't see any real issues with handling.... Even with stronger winds.

I'm looking into a pair of Hed Jet 90s..... the 808s are very nice but I can't justify the extra 600 dollars.. that could go towards coaching which would be much more beneficial.

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Good problem to have: I can only offer my experience: Weighting in at a svelte 195lbs, I've ridden my P3C w/ 808s on my last two IM finishes; CDA 2006, Canada 2006 and Cals 70.3 in 2006. The combination of the bike and wheel gives you an unbelieveable ride. Down side? Can be a bit tricky w/ a cross wind, Canada's last 10k back to town. Even w/ my weight, it became a white knuckled ride! In my mind it depends on the course; cross winds on a flat track...808s are fine. Cross winds on a hilly DH...I might look towards a 404 fo rthe front (606s set). Again great problem to have...

PS don't get tempeted w/ the more expensive zipps...drop a powertap on the bike/wheel and get the motor runnin'

With or without ceramics:)

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I wanna go fast!

Both responses seem like a pretty lame way of saying "I don't like you" and certainly don't do anything to help the OP.
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Well, I don't know him. So I will stick with what I wrote. But, I can say that from what I've read on this forum for the past two years, I probably would not like him if I did know him.

And, fair comment about the lack of substance, but I was in a tizzy -- I have no input on Zipps, having never ridden them. But, I ride a Hed 3 rear because I am 220 lbs and could not see spending for the Zipp Clydes, and I have a Flashpoint 60 front (actually the Real Design version which was 100 bucks less than the Flashpoint even though identical). I like the front a lot.

PS, I weigh 150lbs...

I always hear people complain about a disc and wind, but I've never had an issue. Maybe that is more specifically a front wheel issue.

Maybe a 404 front, rear disc is a good fit for me?

I was looking in the same direction and was leaning heavily toward the 606. It just seemed the best of all worlds. I ended up buying an Aeolus 6.5 and disc, but only because I got such a killer deal on them.

Funny you should type, "I don't like you". I actually had that typed and decided to take the "lame way" of saying it, but obviously still got my point across. Granted I really don't know Dave, i just think he has less to offer then myself with his self-centric equipment comments and it gets real old real quick.

I've had my back and fourth with Dave before over his old tag line and contradicting post's... a wouldn't go at it again, but I couldn't resist being a new post.

PS- and if it really makes a difference I ride 909's.

 
If I had to get a Zipp wheelset (what a tough day that would be...) I would get a set of 606 clinchers. That's a 404 up front and an 808 rear. I think that's got to be the most versatile wheelset they offer, especially if the rear is laced to a PowerTap hub. You'll have a deep, but not overly deep front rim, and a nice fat rim on the rear. If you really have the jones for a disc, you can slap a wheel cover on the back. (This would be even sweeter with a powertap... cue ashburn and dia_tri) If you're headed to Kona, just ride the 808 al fresco.

I think having the 808 up front is a bad idea unless you've got money to burn and a stack of wheels to choose from on race day. If you're limited to a single front wheel for all conditions on race day, then I'd go with the 404, and maybe even the 303. I'd always race something really fat on the back, especially if it's windy.

Well, here's my plan as I've been debating the same thing myself. I already have a pair of FSA 488 carbon tubulars which have a 50mm section to them. But I really wanted something deeper and/or a disc and have an opportunity to get a good deal on some Zipp stuff (former shop employee, old boss takes care of me, etc). So I've been debating the 808's or some 999's.

Both are 808 fronts, so the only difference is whether I go disc or not in the rear. My major races this year are Eagleman 70.3 (flat and usually windy), Annapolis oly. (gradual inclines and flat and potential wind) and IMFL (flat and possibly windy). Next year I'd like to do IMAZ as my "go for the Kona qualifier" and Kona if I make it. If not it will be Chesapeakeman iron distance (same course as the Eagleman).

So basically all my races are flat and fast with potential wind issues. I'm 6'-1" and 170 (right now because of Boston training) but I'm usually in the 170 - 175 range, so I'm no featherweight. A disc shouldn't be an issue with my height/weight so I'm heavily leaning towards the 999's. If the weather totally sucks I always have the FSA's as back-up.

If I didn't have the FSA's I'd almost assuredly get the 808's.

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Rick, "Retired" hobbyist athlete
Trying to come back slowly from acute A-Fib

why stick with zipps to common for me , for hilly course i raced Fulcum racings speeds 50mm deep rim carbons , for flatter races it was tri spoke and hed superlite disc and if a bit of agail blowing would swap tri spoke for the fulcum . not looked into my weight for holding bike down but i figured that at 69kg and 5;10 it wasn't a problem

I ordered a set of 999 clinchers for this season--- Been waiting six weeks for them already, so can't comment yet, but LBS promised them this week so I should have stuff to say after Oceanside.

-Marc

Wow, a great question. You know, I have no idea. I do not spend a lot of time attacking others when they get into their sex trips, or other stuff that I think
is pretty sick on ST. I just do not read the posts, or reply to them. But for some reason, there are a few that think only what they think is important can be talked about,
or responded to or what ever there ego's say makes them the boss. I got over it a long time ago. If you look how few post vs how many read, its is a very small minority.
I have met so many neat people from ST from either PM's or at races. And 100% of them just tell me ST has so many jerks that they love to watch them make a fool of themselves by attacking me.

So, I do try to pass my experience on to others. I have learned some much from great folks on ST, that I try to give back. But man, try to say that the short folks may be wrong and something like longer cranks may work, or PC's or RC's or, or, or, watch out. I do try to talk about things I am excited about. Sure seems like many others do the same, but for some reason, they are in the click, while I am not.

So, for the folks I can help with my experience, great. For the ones who seem to already know it all, I am honored they continue to read and reply to my posts. :o)

Even though I HATE the bike porn posts, yep, when I get my bike rebuilt, I will post some pictures. Hye, this will give some folks a great dart board. I will make sure to take one with me in it just for them. :o)

Dave

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YoYo has a set of Z99's - so should you

So hot right now........

With ceramics. If I am going to be stupid, I am going to do it 100%. :o)

Dave

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John, you going to nationals this year? If so, I will buy you a beer. I do not drive so I will have water. I promise not to bite.
Interesting how you can prejudge someone w/o ever meeting them.

Cathy, have I bit you yet in the times we have met? :o)

Dave

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Mike, I will make you the same offer. You racing at Nationals? I will buy you a beer and you can see if I really bite. :o)

Dave

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