Login required to started new threads

Login required to post replies

Zipp QC? Is this normal?
Quote | Reply
Hi I just bought Zipp 858 NSW Disc Brake.

The decal on the wheel is quite terrible. It blur and look not worth for expensive wheel like this.

I'm not sure is this normal?




Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
It was spray painted by Banksy. It's how Zipp justify their overpriced wheels...
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
I don’t see anything wrong here.

blog
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [stevej] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
stevej wrote:
I don’t see anything wrong here.

Yeah I must be missing something. I hate that you can’t pull the decals off now but besides that I’m not sure what is wrong.
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [Grant.Reuter] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Grant.Reuter wrote:
stevej wrote:
I don’t see anything wrong here.


Yeah I must be missing something. I hate that you can’t pull the decals off now but besides that I’m not sure what is wrong.

I guess it's bad advertising/marketing when everyone uses a hair dryer to pull off their decals and go blacked out...

Eric Reid AeroFit | Instagram Portfolio
Aerodynamic Retul Bike Fitting

“You are experiencing the criminal coverup of a foreign backed fascist hostile takeover of a mafia shakedown of an authoritarian religious slow motion coup. Persuade people to vote for Democracy.”
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Looks normal to me
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [stevej] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
He's wondering if the fuzziness of the graphics is normal.

Strava
Last edited by: gmh39: Nov 1, 18 5:31
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
is the new logo laser etched?
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [zinny] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
It looks like it is ink jet.
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [gmh39] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply


Why the one that show on Zipp website look much better than what I got.
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Normal?


Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Ok.. so it's a bit fuzzy..

That's important, why?
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
It seem like the one that Zipp show on website the clear of the decal is much better than what is in market.

I saw this public pic in Facebook it also has blur logo.


Last edited by: UnUnU: Nov 1, 18 8:55
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [zinny] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Another question.

Zipp 858 Disc Brake has max wide 23.7mm, why it is much lower than 454 (27.72mm) and 808 NSW (26.4mm)?



https://www.zipp.com/wheels/858-nsw-carbon-clincher-disc-brake/#


https://www.zipp.com/wheels/454-nsw-carbon-clincher-disc-brake/#


https://www.zipp.com/wheels/808-nsw-carbon-clincher-tubeless-disc-brake/#
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
You sound very unhappy with these wheels. Please feel free to PM me for my address and I will take care of disposing of them for you.

***
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
UnUnU wrote:
Another question.

Zipp 858 Disc Brake has max wide 23.7mm, why it is much lower than 454 (27.72mm) and 808 NSW (26.4mm)?



https://www.zipp.com/wheels/858-nsw-carbon-clincher-disc-brake/#


https://www.zipp.com/wheels/454-nsw-carbon-clincher-disc-brake/#


https://www.zipp.com/wheels/808-nsw-carbon-clincher-tubeless-disc-brake/#


Ok just found this from aerogeeks.

"One more thing worth mentioning about the design… if you compare the 858 with an 808 NSW, you’ll quickly notice that the 858 is thinner—significantly so. An 808 is 26.4mm (front and back), while the 858 has a maximum width of 24.4mm at the front and 23.7mm for the rear wheel. According to Zipp, the reasoning behind the width difference as to reduce aerodynamic drag. In the absence of a crosswind, a narrower wheel is always going to be aerodynamically faster. One of the reasons aero rims have grown wider (an innovation that was first made by Zipp with their Firecrest wheels) is because, with a conventional rim, wider rims are less affected by crosswinds. With the Sawtooth rim design, Zipp has improved crosswind performance so much that they were able to go to a narrower rim and improve the aerodynamics even more. In short, they are able to get the best of both worlds—a wheel that is aerodynamically faster and more stable in a crosswind than a wide conventional rim."

If that is the case why 454 still has quite wide (27.72mm)? 454 also have good aerodynamic of a crosswind from Sawtooth design.
Last edited by: UnUnU: Nov 1, 18 9:27
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
UnUnU wrote:
UnUnU wrote:
Another question.

Zipp 858 Disc Brake has max wide 23.7mm, why it is much lower than 454 (27.72mm) and 808 NSW (26.4mm)?



https://www.zipp.com/wheels/858-nsw-carbon-clincher-disc-brake/#


https://www.zipp.com/wheels/454-nsw-carbon-clincher-disc-brake/#


https://www.zipp.com/wheels/808-nsw-carbon-clincher-tubeless-disc-brake/#


Ok just found this from aerogeeks.

"One more thing worth mentioning about the design… if you compare the 858 with an 808 NSW, you’ll quickly notice that the 858 is thinner—significantly so. An 808 is 26.4mm (front and back), while the 858 has a maximum width of 24.4mm at the front and 23.7mm for the rear wheel. According to Zipp, the reasoning behind the width difference as to reduce aerodynamic drag. In the absence of a crosswind, a narrower wheel is always going to be aerodynamically faster. One of the reasons aero rims have grown wider (an innovation that was first made by Zipp with their Firecrest wheels) is because, with a conventional rim, wider rims are less affected by crosswinds. With the Sawtooth rim design, Zipp has improved crosswind performance so much that they were able to go to a narrower rim and improve the aerodynamics even more. In short, they are able to get the best of both worlds—a wheel that is aerodynamically faster and more stable in a crosswind than a wide conventional rim."

If that is the case why 454 still has quite wide (27.72mm)? 454 also have good aerodynamic of a crosswind from Sawtooth design.

454 is a broader toolkit for road riders who typically run wider tyres nowadays.
This is for comfort, cornering and better stability in close quarters and more often than not ride sheltered in a pack.
As soon as you go deeper you are in TT territory and thin still wins.
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Just the decals is all?

Both my 404 Firecrests came significantly out of true. Like rubbing brake pads out of true. Obvious out of true without having to squint and watch them spin. My awesome LBS trued them in literally a couple of minutes flat. But that was shocking Zipp would ship them like that.
Quote Reply
Re: Zipp QC? Is this normal? [lyrrad] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
lyrrad wrote:
UnUnU wrote:
UnUnU wrote:
Another question.

Zipp 858 Disc Brake has max wide 23.7mm, why it is much lower than 454 (27.72mm) and 808 NSW (26.4mm)?



https://www.zipp.com/wheels/858-nsw-carbon-clincher-disc-brake/#


https://www.zipp.com/wheels/454-nsw-carbon-clincher-disc-brake/#


https://www.zipp.com/wheels/808-nsw-carbon-clincher-tubeless-disc-brake/#


Ok just found this from aerogeeks.

"One more thing worth mentioning about the design… if you compare the 858 with an 808 NSW, you’ll quickly notice that the 858 is thinner—significantly so. An 808 is 26.4mm (front and back), while the 858 has a maximum width of 24.4mm at the front and 23.7mm for the rear wheel. According to Zipp, the reasoning behind the width difference as to reduce aerodynamic drag. In the absence of a crosswind, a narrower wheel is always going to be aerodynamically faster. One of the reasons aero rims have grown wider (an innovation that was first made by Zipp with their Firecrest wheels) is because, with a conventional rim, wider rims are less affected by crosswinds. With the Sawtooth rim design, Zipp has improved crosswind performance so much that they were able to go to a narrower rim and improve the aerodynamics even more. In short, they are able to get the best of both worlds—a wheel that is aerodynamically faster and more stable in a crosswind than a wide conventional rim."

If that is the case why 454 still has quite wide (27.72mm)? 454 also have good aerodynamic of a crosswind from Sawtooth design.


454 is a broader toolkit for road riders who typically run wider tyres nowadays.
This is for comfort, cornering and better stability in close quarters and more often than not ride sheltered in a pack.
As soon as you go deeper you are in TT territory and thin still wins.

I see, thanks.
Quote Reply