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Zipp Goes Tubeless on their disc brake wheels!
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BryanD
Aug 30, 17 7:03
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http://zipp.com/...ymr2zflpsv1ku7kw0ejr

Zipp is rolling out two of the most important wheel lineup-introductions in its three-decade history. For the first time, from our 202 to 808 rim depths, our NSW and Firecrest Disc brake wheels are purpose built for the new era of road riding of wider tires and multi-surfaces:
  • Disc brake specific rims
  • Dimples to edge of rim
  • Wider rim, same weight
  • Tubeless
  • Includes new 303 650b Firecrest Disc brake

NSW wheels now available as Disc-Brake and Tubeless
Zipp is proud to expand its NSW lineup to include disc brake wheels featuring a new rim shape and tubeless compatibility:

http://road.cc/...ew-disc-brake-wheels
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elf6c
Aug 30, 17 7:58
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That's excellent- been rolling Bontrager TLR carbon wheels for 2 race seasons, can't go back to tubes now.
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BryanD
Aug 30, 17 8:00
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I don't know anything about tubeless tires. I need to do more research but what are the benefits? What makes it worse than a tire and tube?
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jimatbeyond
Aug 30, 17 8:07
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The new Vittoria Corsa Speed tire has very low rolling resistance.

The downside is that some people are experiencing a higher rate of punctures.
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bespoke
Aug 30, 17 8:45
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Clever by Zipp; part of the NSW premium on the calliper wheels is fact it has much better brake track than the normal wheels
On the Disc version, you can still charge the NSW premium but not have to worry about brake track improvement vs normal 404/808 disc
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BryanD
Aug 30, 17 8:47
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The NSW has more than just a better brake track. The hubs add to the cost.
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Rappstar
Aug 30, 17 8:53
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In addition to the Cognition hubs, there were additional details in the molding process that also were more complex. The brake track was obviously the most noticeable, but not the only, thing that added to that complexity. These new wheels share a lot of that additional complex molding development. And also the Impress printing process as opposed to decals.
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BryanD
Aug 30, 17 8:54
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Rapp,

Are you liking disc brakes now? Or do you want to go back to rim brakes?
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rrheisler
Aug 30, 17 8:57
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Me, waiting for the disc brake discussion to begin:



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BryanD
Aug 30, 17 8:58
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Tom A. should be here within the hour.
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elf6c
Aug 30, 17 9:07
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Tubeless pros: no pinch flats, sealant for stopping minor punctures, can run lower pressures, generally vastly less flats for me over then last 2 years, better RR in certain set-ups
Tubeless cons: less tire/wheel choice, tires may be a bit more expensive, set-up is best with a compressor or one of those trick high volume bike pumps (e.g. Bontrager Flash charger https://www.trekbikes.com/...-floor-pump/p/11881/) I usually just have my LBS do it cause I would rather ride than wrench.

Was tubeless in mountain bikes, then my cross bikes and now my road bikes. I run the Bontrager TLR stuff currently, easy set-up and excellent warranty. That Zipp 808 NSW Tubeless looks nice though.
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Rappstar
Aug 30, 17 9:07
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BryanD wrote:
Rapp,

Are you liking disc brakes now? Or do you want to go back to rim brakes?

Love disc brakes. At home, not so much of a big deal because 1) it almost never rains here and 2) the descents I ride most of the time are fairly non-technical. But after racing Norseman in the rain with it's really fast and technical (by triathlon standards) descents, I'm totally sold on disc-brakes.

I was coming from NSW rims with hydraulic (magura) rim brakes, so the change was less noticeable than it might be for some. But disc brakes still represent a huge upgrade. Especially in the rain. And just ease of adjustment, travel, etc is awesome. They just work. And are easy to work on.

I was actually surprised that no one picked up that I was riding a prototype set of these wheels in one of the pics I posted:

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basti89
Aug 30, 17 9:14
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Anything new w/ the rim brake versions? Eider? Tubeless as well? Et cetera?
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BryanD
Aug 30, 17 9:18
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Nope
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elf6c
Aug 30, 17 11:19
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https://www.bikerumor.com/...eels-actual-weights/

Details and weights
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Hybridlete
Aug 30, 17 11:53
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Oh, boy. Zipp + dimples + disc brakes + tubeless claims. This thread should implode itself.
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Tom A.
Aug 30, 17 13:04
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Rappstar wrote:
BryanD wrote:
Rapp,

Are you liking disc brakes now? Or do you want to go back to rim brakes?


Love disc brakes. At home, not so much of a big deal because 1) it almost never rains here and 2) the descents I ride most of the time are fairly non-technical. But after racing Norseman in the rain with it's really fast and technical (by triathlon standards) descents, I'm totally sold on disc-brakes.

I was coming from NSW rims with hydraulic (magura) rim brakes, so the change was less noticeable than it might be for some. But disc brakes still represent a huge upgrade. Especially in the rain. And just ease of adjustment, travel, etc is awesome. They just work. And are easy to work on.

I was actually surprised that no one picked up that I was riding a prototype set of these wheels in one of the pics I posted:


The loud squealing didn't bother you? ;-)
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Last edited by: Tom A.: Aug 30, 17 13:04
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MJGuswiler
Aug 30, 17 13:17
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elf6c wrote:
That's excellent- been rolling Bontrager TLR carbon wheels for 2 race seasons, can't go back to tubes now.

Doing the same here! Love the wheels as well as the tubeless option. I'm running Schwalbe Pro1's, what tires are you using?

Also, always wonder what tubeless riders are carrying for flat repair. I haven't changed much, I'm carrying a tube, Co2, levers, etc. I always just figured if it was bad enough, I'd pull the valve stem and insert the tube. If the tear is wide/long enough, maybe a gel wrapper, etc?
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Tom A.
Aug 30, 17 13:21
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MJGuswiler wrote:
elf6c wrote:
That's excellent- been rolling Bontrager TLR carbon wheels for 2 race seasons, can't go back to tubes now.


Doing the same here! Love the wheels as well as the tubeless option. I'm running Schwalbe Pro1's, what tires are you using?

Also, always wonder what tubeless riders are carrying for flat repair. I haven't changed much, I'm carrying a tube, Co2, levers, etc. I always just figured if it was bad enough, I'd pull the valve stem and insert the tube. If the tear is wide/long enough, maybe a gel wrapper, etc?

I try this before resorting to the PITA struggle of breaking a bead to put in a tube:

http://bikeblather.blogspot.com/
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