Absolutely no chance. There are much better and more deserving Aussie short course athletes than Cam.
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Re: Wurf to ITU [oscaro]
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Re: Wurf to ITU [NAB777]
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Re: Wurf to ITU [Adman]
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I love that on the 4th page of the thread someone asks what the mixed relay is, yet has complete confidence that he has a shot at making the team. Anyone that follows ITU knows he has zero chance of making the team. Domestiques that come out of the water behind their captain are pretty worthless.
Do all the people saying that he has a shot even watch ITU or SLT?
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Do all the people saying that he has a shot even watch ITU or SLT?
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Re: Wurf to ITU [NAB777]
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Good guys never do anything wrong. Like that guy who raised all that money for cancer.
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Re: Wurf to ITU [mungub50]
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Domestiques that come out of the water behind their captain are pretty worthless. //
Well unless they can catch up early enough in the bike, but other than that, you are 100% correct...Guess he should just probably just scratch this race, unless??? (-;
Well unless they can catch up early enough in the bike, but other than that, you are 100% correct...Guess he should just probably just scratch this race, unless??? (-;
Re: Wurf to ITU [mungub50]
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[quote mungub50
Do all the people saying that he has a shot even watch ITU or SLT?[/quote]
But......but.....but Ironman is everything and they are the fittest people on earth.The people on the Ironman coverage told me so. :-)
Do all the people saying that he has a shot even watch ITU or SLT?[/quote]
But......but.....but Ironman is everything and they are the fittest people on earth.The people on the Ironman coverage told me so. :-)
Re: Wurf to ITU [ThailandUltras]
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I think it is really cool that Cam wants to experience Triathlon in different forms, this is more like the earlier days when Mike Pig and Welchy would race world cups, long course and ironman. I know things are a lot more specialised now but there is still scope for guys to enjoy racing many distances. Its great seeing guys like Gomez and Brownlee in many distances and guys are not in Super League, Oly Distance and 70.3 and they are making money where they can and enjoying their time in the sport.
Re: Wurf to ITU [monty]
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monty wrote:
Domestiques that come out of the water behind their captain are pretty worthless. // Well unless they can catch up early enough in the bike, but other than that, you are 100% correct...Guess he should just probably just scratch this race, unless??? (-;
This is the thing, how far back will he be, and on the narrow, technical course that the test event was on will that suit his riding skills and can he even get around packs in time to be of help?. It looked a shitty narrow course in many places in my opinion, with not many areas to get around even small groups.
Re: Wurf to ITU [Gilliga]
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Gilliga wrote:
I think it is really cool that Cam wants to experience Triathlon in different forms, this is more like the earlier days when Mike Pig and Welchy would race world cups, long course and ironman. I know things are a lot more specialised now but there is still scope for guys to enjoy racing many distances. Its great seeing guys like Gomez and Brownlee in many distances and guys are not in Super League, Oly Distance and 70.3 and they are making money where they can and enjoying their time in the sport.
I agree and I think it is to the detriment of the sport that so many M-Dot junkies only ever do M-Dot events as for so many they just don't seem to know the difference between Ironman racing talent and ITU racing talent.The Pro's do and plan their calendar accordingly but there is a huge difference between what the Pro's do and what the average age grouper does.I wish more M-Dot junkies would try their hand at sprints and oly's and I wish more coaches would schedule short races in their athletes programs.Over here in SE Asia it seems a little like it used to be in Oz and Canada where people race everything they can 'cause it is fun and they don't take themselves quite as seriously as the tri-geeks in the west.
I have personally seen coaches in two towns schedule long rides for their substantial tri squads on the same day as the local triathlon club hosted races.Hell I saw a coach do a race simulation day on the same day as that towns biggest Olympic tri of the year.As I have said earlier in this thread,I would be very surprised if Cam has any chance of getting on the Aussie Olympic Team given his very short window of opportunity and the historical political nature of Australian Olympic selection.
Re: Wurf to ITU [ThailandUltras]
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The political nature of Aus triathlon selection could definately play against him, hell even Birt missed out on Rio selection and he had Aus best results and even a wts podium under his belt by the time the Olympics rolled around. But who knows, maybe it will be in Cams favour, being renowned for being so political means we have no idea what they could be thinking.
Re: Wurf to ITU [B_Doughtie]
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So, finally, we have Cam Wurf this weekend in Santo Domingo. It will be nice to see one guy out of his zone of comfort.... just exciting to see it.
As I mentioned before, and not trying to show any lack of respect to Wurf....he will struggle. He will, from the first strokes in the swim; I predict 1m of loss with the main pack, not the front swimmers. Then, race over. Back pack, trying to avoid lapping out and not finishing top 40 if he gets into T2.
Anyhow, I admire this lad. Olympic rower, then proffesional cyclist and now, one of the top guys in IM. You gotta have that thing to excel in 3 sports.
Somebody was mentioning him to be in the Aussie MTR. For me, no sense at all. Bad swim, compared to the ITU guys, and not run speed. HIs bike is fit for IM or even 70.3, but ITU is crazy fast.....
Good luck to him anyhow
Spaniard. Sorry for my english for the sensitive ones :P
As I mentioned before, and not trying to show any lack of respect to Wurf....he will struggle. He will, from the first strokes in the swim; I predict 1m of loss with the main pack, not the front swimmers. Then, race over. Back pack, trying to avoid lapping out and not finishing top 40 if he gets into T2.
Anyhow, I admire this lad. Olympic rower, then proffesional cyclist and now, one of the top guys in IM. You gotta have that thing to excel in 3 sports.
Somebody was mentioning him to be in the Aussie MTR. For me, no sense at all. Bad swim, compared to the ITU guys, and not run speed. HIs bike is fit for IM or even 70.3, but ITU is crazy fast.....
Good luck to him anyhow
Spaniard. Sorry for my english for the sensitive ones :P
Re: Wurf to ITU [juanillo]
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I think your predictions are "right on"
I hope he finishes.
I hope he finishes.
Re: Wurf to ITU [B_Doughtie]
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Definately interesting!
Did amberger come through the itu stables?
Did amberger come through the itu stables?
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lacticturkey: Nov 6, 19 6:04
Re: Wurf to ITU [lacticturkey]
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Re: Wurf to ITU [ThailandUltras]
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My thoughts exactly, IM racing is great but ITU is what gives the sport the professional depth
I am looking forward to see how an IM guy fares against ITU, and kudos for racing them, don't see many of narcissistic IM pros giving short course a shot if only to get a good workout. Not the deepest field in terms of talent speed but enough horsepower (Varga, Haller, Perez, Polyainsky) in the water to give him a bit of hard time. Would like to see the ITU guys really sticking it to him on the swim, same way he would return the favor on an 180 km non-draft bike ride. In my view, he likely won't do as good as some of the IM cult fans think, but not as bad as being last or getting lapped on the bike.
I am looking forward to see how an IM guy fares against ITU, and kudos for racing them, don't see many of narcissistic IM pros giving short course a shot if only to get a good workout. Not the deepest field in terms of talent speed but enough horsepower (Varga, Haller, Perez, Polyainsky) in the water to give him a bit of hard time. Would like to see the ITU guys really sticking it to him on the swim, same way he would return the favor on an 180 km non-draft bike ride. In my view, he likely won't do as good as some of the IM cult fans think, but not as bad as being last or getting lapped on the bike.
Re: Wurf to ITU [Engner66]
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My thoughts exactly, IM racing is great but ITU is what gives the sport the professional depth I am looking forward to see how an IM guy fares against ITU, and kudos for racing them, don't see many of narcissistic IM pros giving short course a shot if only to get a good workout. Not the deepest field in terms of talent speed but enough horsepower (Varga, Haller, Perez, Polyainsky) in the water to give him a bit of hard time. Would like to see the ITU guys really sticking it to him on the swim, same way he would return the favor on an 180 km non-draft bike ride. In my view, he likely won't do as good as some of the IM cult fans think, but not as bad as being last or getting lapped on the bike.
Amberger finished 8th and Sarah Crowley finished 3rd in Noosa last weekend at non drafting Olympic distance three weeks after Kona...
https://www.multisportaustralia.com.au/...OOSATRI-19/events/1/
Re: Wurf to ITU [ThailandUltras]
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noosa non drafting
Re: Wurf to ITU [Engner66]
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Cam Wurf posted a swim video to Instagram today saying it was of him doing 50s. Out of curiousity I timed what was shown and came to about 33-34 seconds from a push off. There's obviously no background of the workout given in the 1 minute long video, ie. on how much rest, how many intervals, what was done before, etc.
Regardless, my opinion is that this confirms the general consensus of Wurf being way off the front and likely the next pack coming out of the water.
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Regardless, my opinion is that this confirms the general consensus of Wurf being way off the front and likely the next pack coming out of the water.
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Re: Wurf to ITU [zestypollizzi]
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Wurf normally puts out all of his data, I hope he has been swimming more than Strava shows.
Re: Wurf to ITU [NAB777]
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No, Wurf usually puts out all of his biking and running, not swimming.
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Re: Wurf to ITU [zestypollizzi]
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Or the pack after that...
He did get mentioned in the ITU's race preview https://www.triathlon.org/...e_of_the_2020_season
He did get mentioned in the ITU's race preview https://www.triathlon.org/...e_of_the_2020_season
Re: Wurf to ITU [zestypollizzi]
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Out of curiousity I timed what was shown and came to about 33-34 seconds from a push off.//
Was that SCY, SCM, or LCM? Makes quite a bit of difference which one, as the first would be pretty slow, and the latter would be pretty fast, especially if it were something like a set o 20 or so on like a minute...
Was that SCY, SCM, or LCM? Makes quite a bit of difference which one, as the first would be pretty slow, and the latter would be pretty fast, especially if it were something like a set o 20 or so on like a minute...
Re: Wurf to ITU [monty]
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I just looked, its SC (M or Y, can't say) and the clip was just him getting about 2 seconds rest before going on the next one.
how many he's doing, no clue....
Swimming Workout of the Day:
Favourite Swim Sets:
2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
how many he's doing, no clue....
Swimming Workout of the Day:
Favourite Swim Sets:
2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
Re: Wurf to ITU [JasoninHalifax]
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So he was doing some sort of SC 50s' on the 35, that is a really tough set, even if it is just 10 of them..So we really dont know anymore than we did before, if it were meters, then that is really fast, yards is just ok...
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No, Wurf usually puts out all of his biking and running, not swimming.Could have sworn that he manually uploads his swimming data, but maybe not