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Wurf - poor clothing choice?
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Wurf at SA is wearing the new castelli suit.

At Kona he wore the ?roka protype ribbed design suit (basically a copy of all the other ribbed suits, like the endura ones etc.)

Is this a bad bad choice? I heard him talking about not making these types of decisions about sponsorship on the IM talk podcast, I.e. taking sponsorship for a slow product.

But, based on an eyeball numbers, he seems to have put around 10-12 mins into ambeger, llanos and a few others on the bike.

At Kona this was more like 20. Yes I know there were other tactics at play at Kona etc.
But these number differences seem inline from what I’ve seen (and tested myself) in the ribbed suits versus the castelli.

The castelli suit is fast, compared to a regular tri suit, but the ribbed style suits are a massive step up in comparison.

Could Wurf be shooting himself in the foot here?
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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I honestly have no idea what you're talking about skin wise.. but man, isn't the coverage of SA great?
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [xcchampion11] [ In reply to ]
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Yes! For once!
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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I would say he has a very good idea of what is fast for him. He tests a lot. But even if it is slower than ribbed suits, it’s not 10 min slower.
We don’t have any idea how hard he went on the bike compared to Kona, or how hard the others went. Maybe he was saving it for the run and held off?

Terrible Tuesday’s Triathlon
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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TriByran wrote:
Wurf at SA is wearing the new castelli suit.

At Kona he wore the ?roka protype ribbed design suit (basically a copy of all the other ribbed suits, like the endura ones etc.)

Is this a bad bad choice? I heard him talking about not making these types of decisions about sponsorship on the IM talk podcast, I.e. taking sponsorship for a slow product.

But, based on an eyeball numbers, he seems to have put around 10-12 mins into ambeger, llanos and a few others on the bike.

At Kona this was more like 20. Yes I know there were other tactics at play at Kona etc.
But these number differences seem inline from what I’ve seen (and tested myself) in the ribbed suits versus the castelli.

The castelli suit is fast, compared to a regular tri suit, but the ribbed style suits are a massive step up in comparison.

Could Wurf be shooting himself in the foot here?

He may have had a 20 min lead on Josh at T2, but Josh has said his race at Kona was crap and Cam was riding with Lionel and Sebi too vs solo today. I think the delta is more to do with tactics than anything!

Dev
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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So you don’t think he would turn down a shed load of money from Castelli if it was slower?
I don’t reckon so.
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I’ve not said tactics didn’t play a part, but looking at a handful of rides in comparison, I reckon he’s possibly given away maybe 5 minutes,
The castelli suit is good, but it’s old tech now.
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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I'm fairly certain he would turn them down. That's probably the reason he still has so few sponsors.

Terrible Tuesday’s Triathlon
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe. But considering the guys he trains in are all in castelli....
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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Perhaps if he went with the Roka hyperlime colored suit he would have saved a full hour on his competitors rather than 10 minutes. After all, we all know the suit is what wins races and nothing else. Smdh...
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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It was just a thought, no need to be a dick
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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Just imagine how fast he would be on a p5x

Terrible Tuesday’s Triathlon
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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What makes you think the Castelli isn’t faster which it most certainly is! Muhahaha

TriByran wrote:
Wurf at SA is wearing the new castelli suit.

At Kona he wore the ?roka protype ribbed design suit (basically a copy of all the other ribbed suits, like the endura ones etc.)

Is this a bad bad choice? I heard him talking about not making these types of decisions about sponsorship on the IM talk podcast, I.e. taking sponsorship for a slow product.

But, based on an eyeball numbers, he seems to have put around 10-12 mins into ambeger, llanos and a few others on the bike.

At Kona this was more like 20. Yes I know there were other tactics at play at Kona etc.
But these number differences seem inline from what I’ve seen (and tested myself) in the ribbed suits versus the castelli.

The castelli suit is fast, compared to a regular tri suit, but the ribbed style suits are a massive step up in comparison.

Could Wurf be shooting himself in the foot here?
Last edited by: EnderWiggan: Apr 15, 18 8:08
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [EnderWiggan] [ In reply to ]
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Faster?
It’s the old T1 top.
I tested this versus an identical suit to the rubber roka, it was approx 10w slower. So I’d say he’s losing a good chunk.
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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I’d say you have no idea what you’re talking about.

TriByran wrote:
Faster?
It’s the old T1 top.
I tested this versus an identical suit to the rubber roka, it was approx 10w slower. So I’d say he’s losing a good chunk.
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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TriByran wrote:
Faster?
It’s the old T1 top.
I tested this versus an identical suit to the rubber roka, it was approx 10w slower. So I’d say he’s losing a good chunk.

Is it remotely possible that it tests differently on him than on you?
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [EnderWiggan] [ In reply to ]
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Present your data then.
Are you a castelli fan boy?
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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Sometimes I think wattage numbers from wind tunnels are trumped-up bullshit to feed the customer.

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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [Karl.n] [ In reply to ]
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Of course!
Hence why it’s an IDEA
Not absolute.
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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Agree. Hence why my data is a wind tunnel, velodrome and road testing average
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [EnderWiggan] [ In reply to ]
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Did you buy castellis? Original 6 minute claim?
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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sounds good, post all your data and we can analyze. You’ve been around long enough to know what your “idea” is is stupid and makes no sense.

TriByran wrote:
Present your data then.
Are you a castelli fan boy?
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [EnderWiggan] [ In reply to ]
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Do you work for castelli?

Post your data on your testing on wurf, which is what you originally claimed, otherwise I’m calling BS on your ‘faster’ comment.
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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Post your data that it isnt? Since neither of you have anything relevant, it's been fairly thoroughly shown that different suits test differently on different people, and wurf puts a lot of thought into his equipment choices I'm going to assume it's probably not slower on him.
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Re: Wurf - poor clothing choice? [TriByran] [ In reply to ]
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Tribryan, in case you haven't figured it out yet, claiming one is faster than the other is pointless and impossible to prove. They are both top of the line suits and will test TOTALLY different on you, me, wurf, burger, hoff etc.


TriByran wrote:
Do you work for castelli?

Post your data on your testing on wurf, which is what you originally claimed, otherwise I’m calling BS on your ‘faster’ comment.
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