To beam or not to beam, that is the question, or isn´t it? What do you all think? Why should it be a beam bike? Why not?
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Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [larf]
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Since the P5 is on the edge of diamond frames and will remain for UCI TTs there is no other way to put some resistance out of the air stream than a frame shape first etablished with the baracchi ..
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Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [larf]
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I would be disappointed if the new Cervelo does not present significantly less drag - with rider - than the P5-6.
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Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [larf]
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Why is there now a 3rd thread for this bike? People start threads way too frequently here
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [lilteichmonster]
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lilteichmonster wrote:
Why is there now a 3rd thread for this bike? People start threads way too frequently hereBecause he or she was curious and wanted to ask a question. There is nothing wrong with making threads.
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Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [georged]
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georged wrote:
I would be disappointed if the new Cervelo does not present significantly less drag - with rider - than the P5-6.I think it's getting to the stage where it's not that simple anymore. Which rider? In what position? Using what bars and wheels? I speculate that the variation from all those things interacting with the frame itself is starting to dominate pure frame slipperiness.
Edit: Per the Jim@ERO post on the FC35 I think the future of marginal aero gains is figuring out what works for you. So real-time aero testing. I don't think it'll be as simple as checking the "I've got the P6 so I'm the most aero" box.
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [lilteichmonster]
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lilteichmonster wrote:
Why is there now a 3rd thread for this bike? People start threads way too frequently hereAnd so you post your displeasure with this thread. People post their displeasure with threads too frequently here.
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Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [lilteichmonster]
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lilteichmonster wrote:
Why is there now a 3rd thread for this bike? People start threads way too frequently herePray tell, what other reason is there for the forum?
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [larf]
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Well it is a BEAM BIKE so the thread is a moot point.
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [larf]
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OMG if it's not a beam bike life will not be worth living. Only question will be oven, noose, or pills.
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [BMANX]
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What if it's just an updated P5?
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Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [larf]
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What if the color pallets are less than optimal?
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [Bryan0721]
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I wonder if the P5 will be phased out next year? If the P5 stays in the lineup, what does that mean the pricing will be like for the new (P6?) bike? Really gonna suck if the frame module has a $7k price tag.... :(
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [larf]
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I'll be more disappointed if the Google Pixel phone release is delayed given both scheduled to be released on the same day.
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Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [SBRcoffee]
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SBRcoffee wrote:
I wonder if the P5 will be phased out next year? If the P5 stays in the lineup, what does that mean the pricing will be like for the new (P6?) bike? Really gonna suck if the frame module has a $7k price tag.... :(I wouldn't expect much less for the frame module. Maybe 7 is a bit high, but in the day of 11-12,000$ for the highest optioned models, they won't be rolling out an option for only $3,000
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [grumpier.mike]
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Probably right. Im.really liking the tririg omni. Hopefully some other slowtwitchers will be guinea pigs over the winter...:)
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [lilteichmonster]
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Why is there now a 3rd thread for this bike? People start threads way too frequently here
That would make a great thread...
That would make a great thread...
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [tttiltheend]
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tttiltheend wrote:
Only question will be oven, noose, or pills.I am going to use your line at the end of the next boring presentation when the presenter ask if there's any questions.
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [tttiltheend]
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tttiltheend wrote:
OMG if it's not a beam bike life will not be worth living. Only question will be oven, noose, or pills.Yes I would be disappointed. P3 was something special, then P5 and Shiv were special. Now nearly everyone has a triangle frame superbike. Not sure they can squeeze any meaningful reduction in drag out of that design. But remove one of the tubes? Besides it looks cool as hell. I'd get a Dimond but their geometry really doesn't fit. Hoping Cervelo P6, or whatever they call it, is a taller beam bike. I'd buy that.
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [larf]
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I'm not too worried about what Cervelo comes out with next (for tri bikes).
I have faith that whatever Cervelo does, will be based on science. Other bike manufacturers use the term "point of difference" too often. I don't like point of difference, I want the best bike possible. If it looks like a Raleigh 20 and Cervelo says it's fast, it's probably wicked fast and certainly good enough for me!
I remember a number of years ago Gerard, then with Cervelo asked us on ST what the e with the accent, on the head tube of Cervelo's, meant. There were lots of guesses. I'm not sure if anyone guessed right, but he said "engineering"
I like that Cervelo goes with the numbers, not eyeball aerodynamics, for example. They seem to do it better than the other, that seem to worry about 'styling' more than simply going fast.
If the next Cervelo is a beam bike, it will be crazy fast. If it's a standard-ish looking frame, it will be crazy fast. If it has pink streamers on the handlebars it will be crazy fast. That's what Cervelo does.
I just hope it has hydraulic disc brakes! Maybe then I'll sell my P2K and P2 :-)
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I have faith that whatever Cervelo does, will be based on science. Other bike manufacturers use the term "point of difference" too often. I don't like point of difference, I want the best bike possible. If it looks like a Raleigh 20 and Cervelo says it's fast, it's probably wicked fast and certainly good enough for me!
I remember a number of years ago Gerard, then with Cervelo asked us on ST what the e with the accent, on the head tube of Cervelo's, meant. There were lots of guesses. I'm not sure if anyone guessed right, but he said "engineering"
I like that Cervelo goes with the numbers, not eyeball aerodynamics, for example. They seem to do it better than the other, that seem to worry about 'styling' more than simply going fast.
If the next Cervelo is a beam bike, it will be crazy fast. If it's a standard-ish looking frame, it will be crazy fast. If it has pink streamers on the handlebars it will be crazy fast. That's what Cervelo does.
I just hope it has hydraulic disc brakes! Maybe then I'll sell my P2K and P2 :-)
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Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [tridork]
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I think the picture on Cervelos website is the P5-X. I've seen the new P5 yellow and black paint on Instagram. My prediction is this is the rumored P5-X update and the P6 comes next year before Kona. The Freddie Van Lierde photo could be a prototype.
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Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [BryanD]
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Sounds plausible.....
Anyway, Diamondback beat them to the Punch already
Wouldn't be surprised if Cervelo is right now consulting external investigators to find the leak.
Anyway, Diamondback beat them to the Punch already
Wouldn't be surprised if Cervelo is right now consulting external investigators to find the leak.
BryanD wrote:
I think the picture on Cervelos website is the P5-X. I've seen the new P5 yellow and black paint on Instagram. My prediction is this is the rumored P5-X update and the P6 comes next year before Kona. The Freddie Van Lierde photo could be a prototype.
Re: Would you be disappointed if new Cervelo is NOT a beam bike? [windschatten]
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DB did add everything that makes a TT bike fast, but they didn't omit what is unnecessary ..
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