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Wiggins vs. Schleck
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What say you all to this..valid comparison or no?

Is Wiggins' position the deciding factor?

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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [rufio] [ In reply to ]
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Schleck has never been known for his TT abilities. Wiggins wins on a head to head TT battle 9 out of 10 times.
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [53x12] [ In reply to ]
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>Wiggins wins on a head to head TT battle 9 out of 10 times.[/quote]


Against Schleck? 10 out of 10 times.
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [rufio] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think it is strictly a valid comparison since it appears that Schleck has longer upper arms than Wiggo....so he is likely gonna have a larger gap than Wiggo.

That said, I was shocked by their still poor positions. Both Schlecks should be embarrassed by their results today. Sure, July is still 4 months away, but it was only a <6 mi TT. Not finishing in the top 100 is ridiculous. Lot of time left, but a lot of work still needs to be done.





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Wiggs is faster because his bike looks cooler with his H3...or wait, this wheel might actually work?
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
>Wiggins wins on a head to head TT battle 9 out of 10 times.



Against Schleck? 10 out of 10 times.[/quote]
I was leaving room for mechanical failures and bonking. Ok, I'll meet you half way and say 9.5 out of 10 times.
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [53x12] [ In reply to ]
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53x12 wrote:
trail wrote:
>Wiggins wins on a head to head TT battle 9 out of 10 times.



Against Schleck? 10 out of 10 times.


I was leaving room for mechanical failures and bonking. Ok, I'll meet you half way and say 9.5 out of 10 times.[/quote]
With his TT issues, Im not even sure RSNT is going to base their tour hopes around him this year. He may be getting WORSE at TT. Unless he's dropped more weight to climb faster, It wouldnt be surprising to me if they try to put their hopes on Horner.

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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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yeah Andy may have the longest humerus(es) on the planet for someone his height...just wasn't genetically engineered to be a TTer. Blame his parents
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [rufio] [ In reply to ]
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imagine what Wiggo could do with an aero-er bike and a better helmet /pink
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [btmoney] [ In reply to ]
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From what I've read it seems to be more down to poor natural flexibility and lack of interest/motivation to work on that.
Can't afford to lose 10% of the winners time on each of the TdF TTs for sure.
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [rufio] [ In reply to ]
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 Put them on a climb and then compare positions... you might have a tough time getting a clean shot of Wiggins with all the other riders in the gruppetto around him. Lets not forget, Andy won the tour... and came in 2nd, which seems to be a better mix of skills than Wiggo thus far.
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [rufio] [ In reply to ]
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was the weather not a big factor though?
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [dongustav] [ In reply to ]
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dongustav wrote:
Put them on a climb and then compare positions... you might have a tough time getting a clean shot of Wiggins with all the other riders in the gruppetto around him. Lets not forget, Andy won the tour... and came in 2nd, which seems to be a better mix of skills than Wiggo thus far.

But, Wiggs was never given a fair outside chance until HE LOST THE WEIGHT that it takes to climb with the big boys. Last year, and it's safe to say, that wiggs power to weight ratio was in check before the c-bone splitting crash.

I think I will yell for Cadel, go big with the Wigg, and watch every corner because hear comes Horner...but hold on, is horner any better at TT's then A.S? Levi looks great and Brajkovic looks strong. can't wait for July!!!!!
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [carlosferreiro] [ In reply to ]
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There's nothing cooler than a ambivalent Tour winner


carlosferreiro wrote:
From what I've read it seems to be more down to poor natural flexibility and lack of interest/motivation to work on that.
Can't afford to lose 10% of the winners time on each of the TdF TTs for sure.
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [rufio] [ In reply to ]
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the 2012 TdF route could be very good for Wigo.
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [rufio] [ In reply to ]
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In an interview, Schleck says this wasn't a good determinant of his TT prowess because it's too early in the season. WTF Schleck, le Tour has a shit-load of TT miles, what have you been doing all winter - he should be demonstrating to his team that he is the legitimate winner. I would not be surprised if JB goes into le Tour without a designated leader and waits to see how everyone is doing mid-way before he assigns Kloden, Horner etc.


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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [btmoney] [ In reply to ]
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btmoney wrote:
yeah Andy may have the longest humerus(es) on the planet for someone his height...just wasn't genetically engineered to be a TTer. Blame his parents

just drop the bars more, or superman it a bit. there are solutions, he just isn't trying. imho



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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [ShoMyOFace] [ In reply to ]
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I think Cancellara could also be a candidate for The GC; I know that might sound stupid but he has occasionally shown some climbing ability and we know he can crush the time trials. If he lost some weight I think with all the time trials and the climbing support of those two lanky brothers he could be a real threat.
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carlosferreiro wrote:
From what I've read it seems to be more down to poor natural flexibility and lack of interest/motivation to work on that.
Can't afford to lose 10% of the winners time on each of the TdF TTs for sure.

I'll ask him when I'm in Paris...thats right, headed to the Champs on the final day of the tour!
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [btmoney] [ In reply to ]
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Came from Julich in a ProCycling interview I think - he sounded disapointed that he'd not been able to get enough TT work through Andy in the lead up to the 2010 season.
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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Not disagreeing in general, but quite tight limits for extension length when you are tall and under UCI regs :(
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [btmoney] [ In reply to ]
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btmoney wrote:
carlosferreiro wrote:
From what I've read it seems to be more down to poor natural flexibility and lack of interest/motivation to work on that.
Can't afford to lose 10% of the winners time on each of the TdF TTs for sure.


I'll ask him when I'm in Paris...thats right, headed to the Champs on the final day of the tour!

Be sure to ask Andy how it felt having a minimal race schedule, focusing on one event, and working it as a domestique................


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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [DC Pattie] [ In reply to ]
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IF he doesn't break anything...He seems to be, how would you say, Fragile (Fraaagilly), it's Italian.

Who Dares...Wins!
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [+4W/Kg] [ In reply to ]
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+4W/Kg wrote:
IF he doesn't break anything...He seems to be, how would you say, Fragile (Fraaagilly), it's Italian.

Also, I'm not completely convinced that this won't still be a climbers tour. I count at least two stages where you can easily lose 8+ mins if you have a bad day.
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Re: Wiggins vs. Schleck [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
btmoney wrote:
yeah Andy may have the longest humerus(es) on the planet for someone his height...just wasn't genetically engineered to be a TTer. Blame his parents

just drop the bars more, or superman it a bit. there are solutions, he just isn't trying. imho
right? I mean the guy has a whole department at trek at his disposal as a team leader and potential tour winner...how hard to get down a couple more inches with some clever one off pieces? Perhaps he sees a lot of falloff on his already modest for a tter power when he tightens that hip angle more. What with UCI regs keeping him from being able to rotate much more around the bb?
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