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Why no headphones/music allowed in the run?
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During a race, why can't you listen to music during the run?

I realize I have become a little dependent on music during running. I think it helps lift the spirit and a good tempo can help me push more. I know I would of liked it at my recent race, I would of loved to drown out my panting :)

I understand not allowing music during the bike, but the run too? Seems a little uptight to me?

I'm somewhat new to triathlons, and it seems this is standard. Is this a USAT rule? Or just general norm?

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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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Sometimes being able to hear your panting and adjusting pace accordingly is exactly what you need though.
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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I never run without music. However, I never feel like I'm missing while racing. There is always so much going on around you, new scenery, an your own effort to focus on.

I'm pretty sure it's banned for safety reasons. You need to be able to hear what's going on around you. Sure, it's not a big deal if you're the only one wearing headphones, but could you imagine 3000 people on a crammed IM course all oblivious to their surroundings?

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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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The argument is typically that you need to be able to hear instructions and such. I think it is an inaccurate premise. I run thousands of miles with music in one ear while carrying on conversations. No problem.
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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Body awareness can become an "safety".

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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe they should allow headphones during that 30 second prayer I keep hearing about....

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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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Pick the one you'd rather hear (or say) on a narrow or crowded run course:

"On your left. Thanks, buddy. Good stride, we're almost there."

or

"On your left. On your left. Passing on your left. Hey, passing on your left! PASSING ON YOUR LEFT! HEY, MOVE OUT OF THE WAY, EARBUDS!" [followed by the chicken-wing maneuver]


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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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If an official needed to inform you there was a bear running behind you, I don't think you'd want to be the last to hear that news...




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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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That way you can clearly hear the guys not wearing headphones yelling "on your left" or "runner up" as they approach at high speed.

This weekend I did have a few sketchy moments Saturday at a 1/2 marathon. It was a race where they ran the 10k & 5k on the same course, but the 10k and 1/2 mary added an out and back section. When the courses merged again, you have the leaders of the 10k and 1/2 mary going at sub 6 pace coming up on 10-12' pace joggers, most not surprisingly wearing i-pods. Fortunately it was a wide road and not too bad to weave through. The biggest concern was my motorcycle escort not flattening someone. A few blasts of his siren and a LOT of honking solved that. I only nearly laid out on spectator that stepped off a sidewalk not realizing the 1/2 mary course turned right at that intersection.

I could see a descent argument for safety concerns with those wearing them from my observations.


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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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What's the deal with ovaltine?
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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It's because The USAT and WTC hate Apple.
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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On a related note: I was on a nice easy stroll on the local bike path last night and a slow moving cyclist decided to scream "ON YOUR LEFT" right in my ear. I was on the right side of the trail and actually almost jumped right into them. Scared the sh*t out of me and I wasn't even wearing headphones.
Last edited by: jkp07: May 19, 14 14:56
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [jkp07] [ In reply to ]
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Pretty sure the no headphones on the run rule doesn't apply to European races.


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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [Ironwimp] [ In reply to ]
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Ironwimp wrote:
Pretty sure the no headphones on the run rule doesn't apply to European races.
Yes it does.
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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as i have gotten older and a lot slower I end up running with lots of headphone wearers. I don't imagine it is some big safety issue, but I find them a pain in the neck sometimes because they can't sense when someone is near them and they tend to veer into people, or me at least.

I ran splat into the back of this young lady in a trail race last year, I was lapping her and she had the freaking walkman blaring so loud I could hear it and I said "on your left" twice then she moved right into me and splat she had this sweaty middle aged man stuck to the back of her. Sorry sweetie.
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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because real runners don't listen to music while running. That and it is a safety issue. Many wouldn't ride with headphones so why run?
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [jroden] [ In reply to ]
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jroden wrote:
I ran splat into the back of this young lady in a trail race last year, I was lapping her and she had the freaking walkman blaring so loud I could hear it and I said "on your left" twice then she moved right into me and splat she had this sweaty middle aged man stuck to the back of her. Sorry sweetie.
You ran into the back of a runner and it was her fault because she didn't hear you. Hmmm. OK. Did you intend of her to simply get out of your way?
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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I think mostly it is just for simplicity sake for triathlons because on the bike it is definitely a safety issue and it is easier just to say no headphones for the entire race than to just say it for the bike... In terms of pure running races it has never been an issue... I have always been able to move around slower runners easily and I have never run into anyone...



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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [CPA_PFS] [ In reply to ]
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CPA_PFS wrote:
jroden wrote:
I ran splat into the back of this young lady in a trail race last year, I was lapping her and she had the freaking walkman blaring so loud I could hear it and I said "on your left" twice then she moved right into me and splat she had this sweaty middle aged man stuck to the back of her. Sorry sweetie.

You ran into the back of a runner and it was her fault because she didn't hear you. Hmmm. OK. Did you intend of her to simply get out of your way?


no, I was passing her on a somewhat narrow trail and said "on your left" twice and moved to the leftmost part of the trail, she jusy sort of randomly moved over 2 feet because she had no awareness of her surroundings or that someone was passing her.

Let me guess, I was wrong and should have sent her a memo or employed some sort of flare gun or klaxon device?
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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When my Son, In his racing wheelchair, yells out "on your left" (or uses a bell or does nothing because he is attempting to go around all sorts of "race furniture" as he comes up behind you at 20 to 30kph (12 to 18 mph) on level ground how well will you hear him?

In a Marathon the Wheelchair athletes start ahead of everyone else and generally are never seen unless it is looped course or some kind of muti-distance event. In Triathlons they generally start with the pros. FYI, my son swims at about a 2:00/100 pace so depending upon when you start and what your speed is, you may or may not pass him. On the bike, you will very likely pass him, more so on a hilly course. But once he gets in the racing chair he passes virtually everyone. On a long course good Triathletes will generally finish ahead,of him but on a looped course, not so much.

Anyway, that's my rational.

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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [BCDon] [ In reply to ]
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BCDon wrote:
When my Son, In his racing wheelchair, yells out "on your left" (or uses a bell or does nothing because he is attempting to go around all sorts of "race furniture" as he comes up behind you at 20 to 30kph (12 to 18 mph) on level ground how well will you hear him?
Are those people supposed to get out of his way when he yells that?


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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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I was always under the impression that the no headphones thing was an extension of the 'no outside help' principal in tri. Someone please correct me if this is wrong
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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [jt10000] [ In reply to ]
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jt10000 wrote:
BCDon wrote:
When my Son, In his racing wheelchair, yells out "on your left" (or uses a bell or does nothing because he is attempting to go around all sorts of "race furniture" as he comes up behind you at 20 to 30kph (12 to 18 mph) on level ground how well will you hear him?
Are those people supposed to get out of his way when he yells that?

People are supposed to be on the right (at least here in North America). As long as they keep to the right as most people do, this isn't an issue but if people are gaggled all the way across the path or pull out to pass without looking then he warns them. Unfortunately, racing chairs have very poor brakes and while they can corner, they can't do it that quickly, especially if there is limited pathway. We make sure that in any event he is in, they announce that there is a wheelchair athlete competing and what that means. But I don't know if other ParaTriathletes do that.

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Re: Why no headphones/music allowed in the run? [elag] [ In reply to ]
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Pain is supposed to be fun. You're not allowed to do anything or take anything that will remove the pain/ fun. Get it?!






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