If so and you may get stuff from a shop for it maybe a discount if the wheels are Rovals that Specialized sells also (it’s a Venge). Never know.

i have a front enve 7.8 and don't notice cross winds much. i think it comes down to rider comfortability, weight, position and handling skills more so than the wheels. you won't get a straight answer. it's splitting hairs between the 2 wheels, they're both great. i'd get the roval just because specialized ;)

I had and rolled and raced both. Ultimately I kept the Roval CLX 64. I was in a very minimalist stage and wanted less wheels in the stable. It felt great and stable in all winds and is super light. The brake track definitely leaves something to be desired, but and in at least my case, my Enve 7 seemed like a little bit of unfinished product in the rim bed. Had to sand it down in a lumpy spots to get a nice layer of rim tape down. I really wouldn't want a CLX 64 on a rainy day and always had a HED JET black 6+ ready to go for rainy days.

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Did you feel any differences in speed/acceleration?

No, nobody should be able to feel it. The difference is going to be too small to perceive. You looking at disc brakes or rim brakes? If you are looking at rim brakes I would probably just go with HED JET 6+ or HED JET 6+ black.

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Disc brake, venge comes only with disc.

I've been riding the clx64 disc brake for about 5 weeks now and I love them. I've not ridden the enves somi cannot speak to them but I've ridden HED a lot too and these feel more stable in crosswinds too. They also have a great outer/inner width so that if you mount up a 23mm gp5000 they measure about 26mm vs the 27.5mm outer rim width, so they meet the 105% rule (joshatsilca posted about this rule developed when aero testing at zipp).

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Rovals every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Enve....I'll pass.

I just picked up a Venge Pro last month, and upgraded the wheelset to the CLX64s. Cant really do an A/B comparison, but my rationale was that, given that Spesh's expertise in the windtunnel is certainly up there at the top, it made more sense to get a wheel that was likely designed in conjunction with the Venge. Also, whether or not it is true, the Spesh guy at the shop where i bought the Venge said that the CLX64s will be a bit stiffer (they also sell Enve).

So far, have been very happy with the choice. Wheels are indeed stiff, i dont notice it catching too much sidewind (and it's pretty windy around these parts at this time of the year) and most importantly, they make a very satisfying whoosh-whoosh.

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How come?

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Given discs then I have no problem going with the CLX 64. Great wheel.

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You realize specialized licenses the shape of their wheels from HED right?

Not cutting down specialized, but if you’re licensing the shape and paying a bit more, might as well go with the less expensive almost same wheels of HED.

First I have heard of that. Are you by any chance confusing Rovals with Knots (Cannondale *does* license from HED)?

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Whether they license the qualitative shape or not (I have no idea), the outer width of HED wheels is 25mm and Roval is 27.5. That alone is a significant consideration. It also shows that the shape is not exactly the same. Depths are obviously also different given that HED does not make a 64mm deep wheel, as are spokes, spoke count, hubs..... the roval white paper said hub shape was a significant factor in their performance.

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Yes I am aware of the license deal but I thought that was for the width. I have HED JET+ as my only race wheel at the moment for what it is worth. They are very different wheels and shapes. The Specialized is much much wider wheel (same internal width) but is a much wider wheel. Never seen a wider wheel than the Roval meanwhile the HED JET+ is actually very narrow (relatively) with a wide tire bed.

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Roval are close to 30 in width ? 27.5????

Yeah

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I’d go with the Rovals if aero is the primary consideration: lower spoke count on the front and more aero hubs. Specialized actually did quite a bit of work optimizing those hubs.

right now I have a CLX50 as well as Enve 5.6. Still jonesing for something deeper. First choice would actually be a Swisside Hadron ultimate 80.

The 7.8 is consistently #1 or #2 in aero comparisons while I'm yet to see a Roval in any top 3 list. Have you seen the Roval test well in any comparison or are you just assuming the spoke count and hub make a meaningful difference?

According aero test CLX64 is a bit faster than ZIPP808, 7.8 is also a bit faster than 808, therefore I think clx65 and 7.8 are very close to each other in terms of aero.

I *know* the spoke count has a meaningful impact on drag. Zipp, Swisside, and others have info floating around out there. FWIW, all of the wind tunnel tests for the Roval, Enve, and Zipp are in rim brake guise where all the hubs are comparably aero. With disc brakes the differences between hubs can be quite dramatic.

The 7.8 is only top of the aero chart when with a 25mm tire. Short of that it’s mortal and isn’t the fastest.

That said the HED is the least finicky wheel with whatever tire. It constantly performs and tire choice isn’t as relevant.

Why only HED for rainy days? Did you consider the CLX better in dry conditions than the HED??