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What's your favorite "vice" food? I'll eat it for race weight!
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updates: The Race Weight Project Page
Burgers: day 1, day 2, day 3, day 4 , day 5, day 6, day 7, day 8, day 9, day 10 (surprisingly easy to stay satisfied and lose weight gradually, workouts felt normal)
Ice cream: all the ice cream posts (weight shed FAST on ice cream, training was mostly ok but was more variable than burgers)
Pizza: all the pizza posts (I was suprised that many of my workouts sucked badly. I thought they would be good since pizza has a good combo of carbs, protein and fat)
Beer: all the beer posts (this was the most terrible idea in the world. I'm not a huge beer fan, and after about 2 I feel full and don't want any more. Which doesn't bode well if you're trying to get most of your calories from beer). Weight was also ALL OVER THE PLACE. Literally, swings of multiple kg in 24 hours. I wait for stable weight readings before moving onto each next phase which is why it took so long to get off the beer.
Cake and donuts: all cake posts. More cake than donuts since I'm not a big donut fan.

UPDATE: As of April 1oth it is done! after 21 days of cake I finally lost the final kg. But I saw some very surprising performance improvements during the 21 days of very slow loss. So I decided to enter IMTX at the last minute as a big training day. That gave me 2 weeks of normal eating where I focus on calorie surplus in order to fuel the workouts adequately. As an aside, I really enjoyed parts of this diet and also did not enjoy other aspects. I'm going to tweak it a bit and make this my off season diet for sure. That way I get to eat all the holiday foods and still lose weight! I also felt that it reset my relationship with food, making me a bit less paranoid about what I eat. For health purposes, I prefer to eat a lot of veggies and lean meats, but doing this has also made me feel a lot more ok with occasional eating of ice cream, burgers and cake, without the usual feelings of guilt and "unprofessionalism"







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Ok, so I'm kind of fed up with the BS that people believe especially as it relates to daily diet and nutrition. Perhaps it's the time of year, but I've recently had quite a few people reach out to me for advice on early season weight loss. The thing they've all had in common is that they have a misguided sense of priority and ignore the most fundamental of principles... they focus on this diet or that diet, low carb, high fat, high protein, paleo, ancestral, whole 30, zone, atkins, nutrisystem blah blah blah blah-dee-blah....
While ignoring the simplest of facts: just eat less!!! Even if you follow a strict macro-nutrient or food type of diet, if you eat too much you won't lose the weight. I have made this mistake countless times, so it's not that I know better or anything like that...

To prove my point, tell me what your favorite "bad" food is, and I will eat it to get to race weight. I'm racing IM Boulder in June, and have some weight to lose before then. I currently weigh 78kg, and should race around 73kg (or a bit less if possible). I'll get there by eating whatever I want, just less of it.

Here are the rules:
- Let's get a list of "bad" foods going. You tell me your favorite bad food, and I'll choose one at a time. The more delicious options will get preference!
- I'll eat the majority of my daily calories from that food type (1500-2000 calories per day).
- In addition to those calories, I can eat whatever I like on top of that.
- I'll update this thread with details of what I'm eating.
- When I lose 1kg / 2 lbs, I'll move on to the next "bad food" on the list.
- I'll still be training hard over this time, including Tour of Sufferlandria coming up. And of course prepping for IM Boulder.
- While we're at it, let's debunk some other BS, like not eating carbs at night.
- Maybe it will backfire completely! In which case I will of course admit that I'm wrong.
- Overall, I will be happy if the end result is that people relax and enjoy what they eat a bit more!

Ok, let's get the ball rolling, what's your best unhealthy food?

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updated with provisional schedule:
  • 78-77kg: burgers
  • 77-76kg: milkshakes / ice cream
  • 76-75kg: pizza
  • 75-74kg: beer
  • 74-73kg: pancakes, donuts and cake

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Last edited by: robgray: Apr 25, 17 10:39
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Re: What's your favorite "vice" food? I'll eat it for race weight! [robgray] [ In reply to ]
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I had to chuckle when I read this, because I am currently in the middle of a bit of weight loss myself.

I'm at your current weight (down 5 kgs since August) and my goal weight is the same as your goal weight, and I am also not restricting foods just trying to eat less and being pretty successful just cutting calories.

If I couldn't eat a bit of junk food after a big training day once in a while, I think I'd give up endurance sports all together.
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Re: What's your favorite "vice" food? I'll eat it for race weight! [robgray] [ In reply to ]
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Burgers, hands down!

My go to is a double meat, double cheese, bacon, ketchup, mustard, pickles on a brioche bun. With a serve of hand cut chips of course!

I eat one at least once/twice a week and have no problem with weight. I think it's important regarding diet to not live by absolutes, life's short. Enjoy yourself!
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Re: What's your favorite "vice" food? I'll eat it for race weight! [rock] [ In reply to ]
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I love burgers as well. The nice thing is that, done right, they're really not all that bad for you.

I'm on my way to a nice pulled pork BBQ dinner. Pork, bun, slaw, fries, maybe corn bread or Mac n cheese....

And at least three beers. Perhaps a bourbon.

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don't nibble on junk vice food... go right to the source and chug the liquid gold. Coke or Pepsi
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Re: What's your favorite "vice" food? I'll eat it for race weight! [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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Mmm yes please!!

I forgot about beer, one of my weaknesses. I also like red wine. Beer is about the biggest weight gainer there is for me though, all those empty calories! I even make my own beer as well as drinking commercial/craft beers, that's how much I love it!
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This. Is. Awesome.

My favorite "bad food" is milkshakes.

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rock wrote:
Mmm yes please!!

I forgot about beer, one of my weaknesses. I also like red wine. Beer is about the biggest weight gainer there is for me though, all those empty calories! I even make my own beer as well as drinking commercial/craft beers, that's how much I love it!


Ha! I think if Rob drank 2000 (what like 10-15 beers or so?) calories of beer every day until he lost a kilo that might be more interesting than milkshakes....

Edit - if it were me, I would define food in this instance as being non-alcoholic.

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Last edited by: RowToTri: Feb 3, 17 19:10
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Oh yes! Milkshakes made at home with a blender and some great ice cream.
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Donuts! Bakery down the street from my pool helps me "refuel" and "recover" after hard morning swims!

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RowToTri wrote:
Ha! I think if Rob drank 2000 (what like 10-15 beers or so?) calories of beer every day until he lost a kilo that might be more interesting than milkshakes....

LOL - I didn't anticipate the suggestion of beer... I've set myself up for disaster! A 12oz bottle of Odell IPA is 210 calories, and I'm not sure I can actually get down more than 4. I'm kind of intrigued as to what will happen if I only drink beer, especially to my training!

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Ok it looks like burgers will make the cut for sure. We may as well add chips/fries with the burgers since you mentioned them.

I'll start with burgers tomorrow while the other suggestions continue rolling in

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Bakery made pies - cherry, razzleberry or strawberry-rhubarb.
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Chips and salsa.
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Re: What's your favorite "vice" food? I'll eat it for race weight! [Jimmy B.] [ In reply to ]
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I'm with you and Ed on this. I'm pretty simple ... a good strawberry or vanilla milkshake is hard to beat.
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Re: What's your favorite "vice" food? I'll eat it for race weight! [robgray] [ In reply to ]
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Haha awesome. My top three:

Pancakes
Pizza
Sushi

Not always in they order.

Enjoy!
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Re: What's your favorite "vice" food? I'll eat it for race weight! [jeremyebrock] [ In reply to ]
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Pizza.

Or copious amounts of peanut butter.

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Let's get some food porn up in here

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Cheap instant ramen noodles. Make sure to use the entire flavor packet so that you get your full daily allowance of MSG ;)
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jeremyebrock wrote:
Haha awesome. My top three:

Pancakes
Pizza
Sushi

Not always in they order.

Enjoy!

now we're talking! I was hoping someone would ask for these. I might have to lower my race weight target to 71kg just to get some extra foods in! Sushi might be too healthy though, maybe I'll combine it with the beer one

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Re: What's your favorite "vice" food? I'll eat it for race weight! [captain-tri] [ In reply to ]
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awesome we are in it together!

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 I'm doing Ironman Canada, so I have an extra month to make weight :)

It's long run day tomorrow, I might have to chase it with a vanilla milkshake after reading this thread !
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Jimmy B. wrote:
Oh yes! Milkshakes made at home with a blender and some great ice cream.

ok I think I'm in for milkshakes too

So I'll start with burgers and fries, then milkshakes, then pizza. I need to figure where beer fits in, but I'm up for that too (with possible side of sushi). Pancakes need to feature at some point.

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Bread pudding
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Anything with sugar. Cinnamon rolls come to mind.

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