Awesome. Good job. I'll be keeping an eye on development of this.

Just please don't use that typeface.
And offer a couple colour variants too (neutral black/white for example - because kit matching is important)

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Fantastic design, awesome but this - please have a wide shoe!!!!!!!!!!

Looks awesome.
But, of course, the devil is in the details and in the execution.
Hope your patent is tight because some entity will soon will try to circumvent your claims. But hopefully not.

Would love see this make it to market. Let me know if you need any volunteer testers !


Greg @ dsw

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What don't you like about the font? I've been looking for a reason to use it for a while now!

I get the neutral color thing, but making another all black or all white shoe seems so boring. I've always thought Swiss olympic team uniforms looked sharp for some reason and that was my inspiration for the color scheme.

Maybe I'll be able to do 2 color schemes and make one of them a little more "universal"...

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For all of you guys that want a wide shoe, what brands fit you best?

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It's the Comic Sans of "techy fonts" :p

I agree with you. I like the colours. But it opens up sales when you have a second, more universal option. You could make this shoe look pretty ace in black/white/grey - think patterns or overlays of the three tones.

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Yes, and I've still got a long way to go to figure out all of those little details.

I've got a long and successful relationship with my patent attorney and together we are pretty darn good at developing effective claims that provide real protection and we are 100% on getting issued patents.

We have filed multiple patents on multiple features of this shoe.

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Have you considered making the sole using a thermoplastic resin so they can be molded to people's feet? Don't know if that would mess up the aerodynamics, but a couple guys in my lab are using something like that to make ski boots, they think it's really cool.

Lake for me. Wide at the front, but not so much at the heel and not super-high volume like Sidi Megas.

Northwave Tribute. They only make one width but it super-wide, must be EEEE.
I am really an EE but until these die, I'll use them.

For racing I use a high end Northwave shoe that evidently they don't make anymore. It's a little narrow but I am OK for sprints and olys.

Do you mean a heat-moldable footbed or the actual outsole that the cleat attaches to?

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Oops... I made a math error when originally posting. Total drag reduction in the simulation for a pair of shoes at 22.4 mph (36kph) is 1.22 Newtons, or 124 grams-force or about 12 watts.

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Black might be boring but it's a very safe bet for triathlon. White tri shoes get dirty very quickly and any color you choose might limit your market.

I wear Altra running shoes and Bont "wide" cycling shoes. Sidi Mega also fits me reasonably well. I really like the design of the Bont sole as the "bathtub" gives you a very stable pedaling platform. Friends of mine who didn't have wide feet but did have knee problems swear fixed said knee problems by switching to Bont shoes and zero float cleats.

Bont and Altra Like others have stated.

Very clever how the under-heel area goes to a tapered aero "ridge".

That said, if in a race, one wants the aero benefit of this ridge but one must also walk or run with the shoes in T1 or T2 (due to an idiotic rule), how stable will the shoe be when walking?

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I ride Shimano Wide's and have ran in Altra in the past - I think something like the Bont shape or width is the ticket (although I have not tried them)

Ok next question about wide feet... What size?

If you guys are concentrated in the most popular sizes it may be possible to make a wide version for just that middle 50% range and it might be economical.

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Thats a great question - I wear a US 9 wide and depending on the shape of the shoe jump between a 9 and 10.

I imagine 9 - 11 is going to be the sweet spot?

Big-footed guy here, normal width though. 50 in LG and Shimano are prefect for me, but I've been frustrated that Specialized and Pearl top out (I think) at 48...or at least they used to the last time I was in the market for a shoe. Congrats on this - great work!

I can send you the dimensions of my D2's sometime after Tuesday.

better yet PM me where you want me to measure and I'll break out the calipers

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Size 9-10 depending on company. Amazing work, these look awesome

So looking at your CFD images, is the flat area on the heel, that has the ratchet, designed to be a Kahm tail? Did you consider Kahm tail airfoils for maybe the heel bottom to add some stability for walking?

Also, you mentioned that the Bonts have some design flaws. Care to mention what is wrong with the design? I was always curious to know if there was ever any real windtunnel work done by Bont or Rocket. Both of those aero shoes pre-dated CFD and I never saw either company mention their design work.

This looks fun.

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Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

The lever on the back has a gap in it because the cables have to be able to pass through it when it opens. I'm not trying to do a Kam tail. It would be better if I didn't need that gap, but the air is basically converged by then so I don't think it is too detrimental.

The bont shoe has 2 major issues, maybe 3. Most of the time- especially if you are on a TT bike- you are in a toe down position other than at the bottom of the pedal stroke. So the shape of the sole is really important as it is the trailing edge. They have shaped the sole, but they used the wrong shape. I'm on my cell phone so I can't draw a picture easily but it will not do a great job at reducing turbulence and low pressure behind the shoe.

The second major issue is that they extended the toe into a pointy shape, like a jet fighter. When the shoe is level this is probably beneficial but when it's in a toe down position it's extra frontal area that is very poorly shaped.

I think their heel shape is bad too but I'm not ready to elaborate.

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