I hope YOU can come down off your high horse and move somewhere where no one has to see or hear from you again. I despise people like you more than any other kind on earth. You are the type that walks around as though you are perfect and have the right to judge and persecute anyone you see fit. UNLESS you are perfect in every aspect of your life, just shut your mouth and move on, hypocrite. Yes, I said hypocrite. Anyone that posts in the manner in which you do, is a hypocrite because I KNOW you aren't perfect and I would bet my LIFE you have done something in your lifetime just as bad as Jack that you either didn't/did get caught doing. I am going to make my voice heard to USAT that you be banned from renewing your membership as you are a cheater in triathlon. Apparently you can walk on water.

How would you feel if this ended up as a Felony, which is what it started as. Guess what, crimes have punishment. Felons DO NOT get the same rights as the rest of us. Would you be ok with your local Representative beating his wife and lobbying for issues you care about? Would you still feel this way if she was your mother?

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The Internet is an amazing place. Being opposed to domestic violence and making that opposition known means you're a hypocrite on a high horse.

And before we get there, no, I have never come even close to doing something as bad as beating on my partner. I was in a schoolyard fight in 6th grade and I break the speed limit while driving from time to time, if you want some ammunition.

I hope YOU can come down off your high horse and move somewhere where no one has to see or hear from you again. I despise people like you more than any other kind on earth. You are the type that walks around as though you are perfect and have the right to judge and persecute anyone you see fit. UNLESS you are perfect in every aspect of your life, just shut your mouth and move on, hypocrite. Yes, I said hypocrite. Anyone that posts in the manner in which you do, is a hypocrite because I KNOW you aren't perfect and I would bet my LIFE you have done something in your lifetime just as bad as Jack that you either didn't/did get caught doing. I am going to make my voice heard to USAT that you be banned from renewing your membership as you are a cheater in triathlon. Apparently you can walk on water.


You appear to be under the impression that most people have committed horrible acts at some point in their life. Speaking for myself, nothing could be further from the truth. I have not even come close to doing anything on the level that he did, nor have any of my closest friends. No idea who you run with, but there are lots of us who can throw stones.

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His actions were the same, regardless of whether it was classified as a felony or misdemeanor. If it were my mother, I would want her to be far away from this guy. And I would still expect that he would have an opportunity to resume his life after paying the punishment he owed.

I assume most elected officials are guilty of things just as bad if not worse.

USAT is a service provider to me. I'm a member out of necessity so that I can participate in events I want. One of their volunteers has a past that I find shameful, but the organization itself doesn't seem to have done anything unethical. If I didn't associate or do business with any organization that had employees/volunteers with crimes in their past, I wouldn't be able to live life. Expecting that USAT refuse help from anyone with a crime in their past is absurd and hypocritical.

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Lets hope you or someone you know ever screws up then.

Agreed. We need to take a look at our rules/laws and make sure their appropriate. If they're not, we need to change them. In the meantime, if people are paying the punishment that the rules dictate, then attacking that individual is misguided.

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I wrote to you since you know him, talked to him about this, and your post came off to me like you are supporting him. (Just like you did about lance at the beginning)

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UNLESS you're a perfect human being, you can't throw a damn thing. Period!

I'm fairly certain not a single person is suggesting this.

There is a suggestion that he shouldn't be in a leadership role, directly representing the membership.

That has nothing to do with him having a job or continuing his life.

Wait, what? You have to be perfect to disapprove of domestic violence?

Didn't you "throw stones" in this very thread?

This is the reason I've never participated in public stonings.

No, I simply pointed out where the coward OP purposely omitted his identity and then followed up every post as a Holier than Though individual who never ever made a mistake or did anything in his life he wasn't proud of. I know I am not perfect and when I come up short, I ask for forgiveness. When others come up short, I don't try and end their lives and take very measure possible to make their lives more hell than they already are. If the victim (wife) has forgiven him, the court is satisfied, then its done. I don't think the manner in which your card is issued every year or your results are affected, so let it be. Everyone involved is ok victim, courts, employer,) but some of you here, which aren't directly involved.

Do you really think his potential resignation from the USAT Board would "end his life"?

Look, whether or not you care, he is in a leadership role representing the membership of USAT. The members absolutely are just in asking for his resignation.

You're out of your fucking mind if you can put these two on the same spectrum. Seriously, go fuck yourself.

And Jack... you're not a man.

He has every right to live out his life with the support of his family and friends. His actions should cost him the privilege of serving in a leadership role in the governing body of triathlon, however. Actions and consequences shouldn't be a difficult concept for you to understand.

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Has he failed you in any sort of way? Did your USAT card not get mailed to you in time? Are your results screwed up? IF his actions cause him to not be able to do his job, then ok, but if they didn't, quit your bitching. If you want to throw a 3rd grade tantrum about something, why don't you call the Whitehouse and demand something be done about ISIS or healthcare issues. Something that is in SERIOUS need of help.

Suddenly your me-centered worldview has some context.

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Cheating on wives right up there with beating on wives???? That is an insane way of thinking ... Yikes.

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That's just... too rational. You'll never compete with the social justice warriors with responses like that.

Srsly Travis, domestic violence isn't nearly as important as the threat of Ebola.

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Dan, I have had many friends over the years who had either physically abusive and or verbally abusive husbands. Just bottom line low life folks.
I put these way way lover than folks who cheat, even though they are slime IMO also.

But talking to these women, I could never understand why they stayed with these guys? They were all scared to leave since how would they survive
since most were dependent on the guys for money. Over time, some of these women did finally break away and after they did, they never could understand
how they stayed in those relationships for so long.

If you look at the rules for USAT athletes, if we do some bad stuff I believe we are banned for 2 years. So how can a board member do something
so much worse and get away with who cares what he did/does in his personal life, there are no rules against it so who cares about ethics. This is the issue
I have reading Jacks two posts. I have seen this so many times with so many top folks in our government, etc. on TV lately. But usually the uproar
gets SO bad that they finally resign.

I am not making any judgment as to if Jack is a good guy or not. Or his wife. BUT, to have someone like this on our board, and then make the kind
of posts he has made, well, I guess I just expect our leaders in our sport to hold themselves to a higher standard lead by example, and understand
there is a time to leave and focus on trying to rebuild their lives.

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"Cheating on wives right up there with beating on wives???? That is an insane way of thinking ... Yikes."

to you, and to the fellow who told me to go fuck myself, i think you misunderstand. you assume i'm bringing wife beating down to the rather (i suppose) minor level of cheating on your wife. it's really the other way around. beating your wife is just unconscionable to me. it's just, so is cheating on your wife. to me, to my thinking, i just think it's a way worse act than a lot of other people consider it. but i'm not going to castigate you, or the go fuck yourself guy, for being so cavalier about cheating on your wives.

wait. did i just accuse you of being cavalier about cheating? that wasn't very nice of me, was it? i'll bet that made you mad. i apologize.

probably best if we don't accuse each other of "insane ways of thinking," or tell each other to go fuck ourselves. or for me to assume that you don't take your marriage vows seriously. it's probably better to try to soberly discuss an issue, each assuming that the other is a man (or woman) of goodwill.

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I have been a life long Dallas resident and never did one of his races, way too many stories. The guy is just an abrasive personality without a brain, if you have read some of his replies to issues i am amazed that he was elected.