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Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes
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Surprised this hasn’t been picked up.

Adopted today. Prototypes and all shoes over 4mm will be banned. All shoes must be available commercially to the general public.

That would make the shoes used last week illegal.
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [SheridanTris] [ In reply to ]
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Triathlon who? USAT, WTO, PTO, ITU
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [Yutaka Sonik] [ In reply to ]
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World Triathlon...rule starts Jan 1, 2023.
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [SheridanTris] [ In reply to ]
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SheridanTris wrote:
Surprised this hasn’t been picked up.

Adopted today. Prototypes and all shoes over 4mm will be banned. All shoes must be available commercially to the general public.

That would make the shoes used last week illegal.

Where can I read more about this?
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [jaretj] [ In reply to ]
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It's initially mentioned here: https://www.triathlon.org/...hip_finals_abu_dhabi
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [Uncle Phil] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [SheridanTris] [ In reply to ]
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Are they going to start checking age groupers' shoes with a ruler?
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [SheridanTris] [ In reply to ]
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Does a list of disqualified shoes exist?
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [SheridanTris] [ In reply to ]
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Wasn't it 40mm drop or something like that?

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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [TizzleDK] [ In reply to ]
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I hope you mean 40mm stack, not drop. I didn't see anyone in heels.

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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [SheridanTris] [ In reply to ]
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Hello SheridanTris and All,

The new rule, to take effect immediately, requires that running shoes have a maximum midsole thickness of 40mm and no more than one stiff carbon plate. This rule appears to grandfather in the Nike Vaporfly Next%s, which has been a popular shoe of choice among elite marathoners and many top triathletes.

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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [SheridanTris] [ In reply to ]
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Useful short discussion in the last 5 minutes of this podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/...ri-news/id1559781865
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [sol-rosenberg] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds like you're hanging around the wrong races... /s

But I thought all of the major manufacturers had dropped their supe shoes under the 40mm level, are they any left? Or just those with older shoes?
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [erbrown] [ In reply to ]
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The Adidas that recently released that Patrick Lange competed in would fall afoul of this rule.

As would, of course, Iden's Ons (which had been rolled out to some other athletes recently).

Yes -- applies to age groupers.

IRONMAN to adopt as well.

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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [rrheisler] [ In reply to ]
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How is Ironman actually going to enforce this in the age group ranks??

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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [SheridanTris] [ In reply to ]
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Good, hopefully companies stop making shoes that go beyond this. The super shoes are not good for sport.
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [Nick2413] [ In reply to ]
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Nick2413 wrote:
Good, hopefully companies stop making shoes that go beyond this. The super shoes are not good for sport.

I have a philosophical difference with this as it applies to triathlon. Triathlon has not followed many of the established rules, referencing UCI here, and it has resulted in constant innovation. To limit shoe development to a specific envelope is ridiculous. A lot of R&D is trial and error, and to limit it just as the trials were showing some exciting developments stunts the running community. I for one believe thicker midsoles decrease injuries. Who knows if we were on the verge of coming up with a shoe with great performance plus the ability to minimize injury or allow those with knee issues to run longer.
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Aside from the stack height, there's also a stipulation for commercial availability. So this means that athletes can't wear prototypes for races even if the correct stack height no? Many of the Hoka athletes (e.g. Kanute, Pallant-Browne) wore the yet to be released Hokas in their previous races. I'd imagine athletes would be more hesitant to get into shoe sponsorships especially if the brand is quite behind the curve in releasing fast shoes.
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [runningeconomy] [ In reply to ]
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runningeconomy wrote:
Aside from the stack height, there's also a stipulation for commercial availability. So this means that athletes can't wear prototypes for races even if the correct stack height no? Many of the Hoka athletes (e.g. Kanute, Pallant-Browne) wore the yet to be released Hokas in their previous races. I'd imagine athletes would be more hesitant to get into shoe sponsorships especially if the brand is quite behind the curve in releasing fast shoes.

Can’t remember who it was but one company sold about 10 pairs of shoes and said it was commercially available. When challenged it was deemed to be commercially available.
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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stevej wrote:
How is Ironman actually going to enforce this in the age group ranks??

Amateur marathon runners aren't checked either. Only applies to the pros.
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [timbasile] [ In reply to ]
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timbasile wrote:
Are they going to start checking age groupers' shoes with a ruler?

Or do the same as they do at run races....

It's new to tri, but not new to the world
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [erbrown] [ In reply to ]
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erbrown wrote:
Does a list of disqualified shoes exist?

Bad idea. That would just allow mfgs to launch shoes the day before major races so there's no time to add them to the list. The 40mm rule works for running, why change it?
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [erbrown] [ In reply to ]
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erbrown wrote:
Sounds like you're hanging around the wrong races... /s

But I thought all of the major manufacturers had dropped their supe shoes under the 40mm level, are they any left? Or just those with older shoes?

They continue to introduce them. They're often good trainers and amateurs can wear them in running races.

New Balance SC Trainer and Adidas Prime X Strung were both launched recently with around 50mm stack.

Lange and Astle both won IM Israel wearing the Prime X.
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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [TizzleDK] [ In reply to ]
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SheridanTris wrote:
all shoes over 4mm will be banned.


TizzleDK wrote:
Wasn't it 40mm drop or something like that?


That explains Mizuno's new shoe, which looks to be 4mm stack in the heel (where theyre measured for this rule) and negative 40mm drop. Haha


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Re: Triathlon adopts Athletics rules for shoes [sol-rosenberg] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the correction. I meant stack doh!

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