Easy there tiger. “Childish and stupid”? You’re the one that sounds like a kid that didn’t get what they wanted for Christmas. Yeah, the build up was ridiculous and we all expected/wanted it to be something bigger, but no need to get so angry about it.

The worst part . . . does this mean we have to wait another 30 years to see something THIS revolutionary in cycling?

It's the benefits of MIPS, with roughly the same performance as MIPS. But without (Trek hopes) having to pay the MIPS royalty to Giro / MIPS. Anyone want to wager what time MIPS' lawyers went to work this morning?

Yes it does. I really hope it’s a comfy saddle. See you in 30 years! Lol

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Madison photographer Timothy Hughes | Instagram

Yeah good point. Fortunately, we can all expect something this revolutionary within the next week or two.

Maybe a hidden benefit of the new material is that is could/should ventilate a lot better than closed-cell styrofoam. Is it replacing the old material completely? Or will we still have our foam hats to cook our skulls in?

As a person who has had a number of serious concussions (one of which required being airlifted to a trauma center, plus about 6 or so other concerning ones), I should be super interested in helmet tech. I need a new helmet, so I'm absolutely going to be stepping up to either this or MIPS... are they truly about as equally as effective?

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Any context or further info?

Bike or other?
This brand or other?

Sorry That was sarcasm

So if I'm looking at the site correctly, this is compared to a non-MIPS helmet. Well...c'mon now.

NVM, I see the difference in the 8 page study report. Interesting...how long until this gets shared around or creates more advances?

Also, Trek Aero helmet?

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Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

Sorry I'm slow 😁

Trek need to launch a new SC god damn soon.
Realistically we are prob a 4 months out of 2020 launches.

Of the top 3 rated Bontrager helmets, two are the new material and one is MIPS. MIPS is rated between the other two . . . so they appear to be pretty interchangeable, as far as performance is concerned.

If the Elsevier study is valid then "roughly the same performance as MIPS" is not accurate.

So if you believe the study, $300 is cheap insurance against serious trauma.
If you don't believe the study, Wavecell is a gimmick.

I think people who know people that have had serious brain injuries cycling will be inclined to believe the former.

Considering that the Ballista MIPS came out very well in independent safety testing and aero testing, right now I'm thinking to buy one for road riding/racing on close out.

They actually have one that has mostly flown under the radar. Not sure if they ever got it certified for the U.S.

https://www.trekbikes.com/...bike-helmet/p/12566/

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Madison photographer Timothy Hughes | Instagram

My question on that is more about a Wave Cell TT/Aero Helmet.

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Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

Ah, I hear ya.

They'd have quite the feat beating Aerohead, P-09, Scott Split and Oakley Aro7. And why even bother if they can't win an aero shootout with those since word on aero performance gets around pretty fast these days. Just my 2¢.

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Madison photographer Timothy Hughes | Instagram

The helmet as it stands looks decent, if you can build it similarly with the wavecell tech that would amazing.

In regards to this development, if I take the study seriously and not believing it to be quack science. And it looks pretty good to be honest. This will either kickstart more innovation or they will be licensing the tech out faster. Wonder which one comes first.

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Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

Just wanted to inform you that MIPS only gave you a small increase from EPS. Wavecel drops your chance of injury signifigantly from MIPS added to EPS. MIPS is a slip liner where Wavecel is a replacement for EPS - except for the cosmetic exterior.

Here is some great articles with testing for everyone! You can find plenty of answers to your questions there!

http://trek.scene7.com/...0_impact_testing.pdf

https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/...-helmet-ratings.html

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Mitchell Mathews | Community Manager | Trek Bikes | @mitchmathewz

for this thread too....

in the VT rankings why does the Ballista MIPs score better than the XXX wavecell? The idea of replacing the styrofoam cooler material with wavecell makes sense to me... just trying to understand. thanks

I'm disappointed, so much hype, in a result it is just a helmet :(
I was waiting on some super modern frame material...

If the study is true, I'd buy one for sure.

Some of the other weird things that people were suggesting/hoping for earlier in this thread...probably not so much.

Marvelous, in 30 years, I'll be 92.83% of 100. I know I'll still be here, because only the good die young. Live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse. Looks like I'm 0 for 3... ;-))

Big caveat that 'assuming the claims are reasonably true,' but:

A meaningful decrease in brain damage from a fall is a lot more interesting to me than a zero point nothing over-a-40k gain that'll never impact my racing in any way. Probably because I'm slow anyway, but I'm happy to see (at least attempted) innovation in a safety area that might save someone's quality of life vs a performance metric that's functionally meaningless in most of real life.

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JustinDoesTriathlon

Owner, FuelRodz Endurance.

Valid point, but maybe an oversimplification. For me, it's what does the extra money for MIPS get me over a regular helmet? What percentage of accidents exceed what a normal helmet protects against? Same for wavecell. And just as importantly, what percentage of accidents does this not protect against? That said, I'm still likely to buy this the next time I need a helmet.

Maybe give it a re-read :-)

"A lower score offers better protection."