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Re: Trek's latest tease..? [Ksavostin]
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Re: Trek's latest tease..? [jlentzke]
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i'm guessing it's about sports. trek really loves sports!
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Re: Trek's latest tease..? [Ksavostin]
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Ksavostin wrote:
jlentzke wrote:
Obviously its a teaser for the new speed concept disc "A change like this happens once every 30 years".
Do you really think it is a SC?
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Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [bespoke]
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bespoke wrote:
I agree with this I think all the really keen cyclists will be underwhelmed given all the guesses so far....
Given Trek is very engaged in growing cycling for all I think it will appeal to the commuter, casual enthusiast far more than hard core racer
I was told its a Bontgarer product(s)
GoreTex + Airbag business suit to commute safely in style ?
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [Pyrenean Wolf]
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I think companies need to be careful when they tease like this, even to non-racer consumers.
They've already got an e-bike range. That wouldn't excite anybody anywhere. I see one every other day around town here.
You run the risk of crying wolf and then everyone is all like "that's it????".
I don't think much out there would really excite me and get me to part money right now on more kit than if Shimano released a truly affordable electronic 105 groupset or kit. Like around $400 affordable.
I'm already a pretty skinny rider, so nothing much in terms of frame weight really tickles my fancy.
Now, if you could custom fit and order at the same price a carbon frame or something.......that'd be cool. But lots of their consumers are probably the "show up and buy it" type. Not the order and wait types.
They've already got an e-bike range. That wouldn't excite anybody anywhere. I see one every other day around town here.
You run the risk of crying wolf and then everyone is all like "that's it????".
I don't think much out there would really excite me and get me to part money right now on more kit than if Shimano released a truly affordable electronic 105 groupset or kit. Like around $400 affordable.
I'm already a pretty skinny rider, so nothing much in terms of frame weight really tickles my fancy.
Now, if you could custom fit and order at the same price a carbon frame or something.......that'd be cool. But lots of their consumers are probably the "show up and buy it" type. Not the order and wait types.
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [CN]
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agreed. it will be anti-climatic. Everybody is hung up on bikes and frames. Remember Trek/bontrager make many other products...
1. Pretty much every guess so far has been wrong (including the CyclingTips article)
2. With all this hype and guessing going on, most people will be disappointed when they realize what it actually is
3. The products will most likely be in stock when it's launched
CN wrote:
I have a good idea of what they're about to launch. A few clues to you guys: 1. Pretty much every guess so far has been wrong (including the CyclingTips article)
2. With all this hype and guessing going on, most people will be disappointed when they realize what it actually is
3. The products will most likely be in stock when it's launched
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [iliketri]
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I thought I had seen a version of the symbol in the background image before. I was right.
Trek, Star Trek.
Lol......
Trek, Star Trek.
Lol......
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [Pun_Times]
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Talked with a composites buddy who threw this out there for what it’s worth..
“Hmmm, I just realized it might actually be some type of weave designed to be prestressed, where you'd close those gaps in the layup, locking them in place with the resin. I bet that's what it is. Something like this: https://link.springer.com/...10.1007%2FBF00855802
Increased stiffness in some directions and increased compliance in others. That's really the magic of composites, the ability to tailor elasticity
If that turns out to be right, I'll let you buy me a beer when I'm in Texas next time :D “
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“Hmmm, I just realized it might actually be some type of weave designed to be prestressed, where you'd close those gaps in the layup, locking them in place with the resin. I bet that's what it is. Something like this: https://link.springer.com/...10.1007%2FBF00855802
Increased stiffness in some directions and increased compliance in others. That's really the magic of composites, the ability to tailor elasticity
If that turns out to be right, I'll let you buy me a beer when I'm in Texas next time :D “
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Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [iliketri]
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iliketri wrote:
agreed. it will be anti-climatic. Everybody is hung up on bikes and frames. Remember Trek/bontrager make many other products... CN wrote:
I have a good idea of what they're about to launch. A few clues to you guys: 1. Pretty much every guess so far has been wrong (including the CyclingTips article)
2. With all this hype and guessing going on, most people will be disappointed when they realize what it actually is
3. The products will most likely be in stock when it's launched
Yeah, starting to think this is a clothing material. Something super duper that does everything - wind proof, water proof, breaths, insulates and wipes your ass.
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Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [Mrcooper]
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Mrcooper wrote:
Talked with a composites buddy who threw this out there for what it’s worth.. “Hmmm, I just realized it might actually be some type of weave designed to be prestressed, where you'd close those gaps in the layup, locking them in place with the resin. I bet that's what it is. Something like this: https://link.springer.com/...10.1007%2FBF00855802
Increased stiffness in some directions and increased compliance in others. That's really the magic of composites, the ability to tailor elasticity
If that turns out to be right, I'll let you buy me a beer when I'm in Texas next time :D “
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [Bonesbrigade]
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i wondered if it was an evolution of the sort of crash-proof fabric scott was experimenting with.
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [Benv]
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Benv wrote:
Except that woven materials are much more expensive than unidirectional prepreg and nowhere near as good. Plus, you can only weave materials with relatively low stiffness and low yield (tex).But those woven layers are still sometimes used on the surface layer because they're better at resisting some types of impact (and also for cosmetic purposes). Could be a kind of shell layer that's much more impact resistant?
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [trail]
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Electric car made from carbon fiber with a chain drive and skinny tires
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [Bonesbrigade]
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So what happened 30 years ago given that this only happens every 30 years....
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/now-that-was-a-bike-bontrager-race-lite.html
So a Bontranger gravel bike.
(FWIW then Goretex was 1969, so probably not a new waterproof / breathable material).
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/now-that-was-a-bike-bontrager-race-lite.html
So a Bontranger gravel bike.
(FWIW then Goretex was 1969, so probably not a new waterproof / breathable material).
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [Duncan74]
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Duncan74 wrote:
So what happened 30 years ago given that this only happens every 30 years.... https://www.pinkbike.com/news/now-that-was-a-bike-bontrager-race-lite.html
So a Bontranger gravel bike.
(FWIW then Goretex was 1969, so probably not a new waterproof / breathable material).
I don’t know man. I’ll just throwing things against the wall.
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Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [Bonesbrigade]
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Duncan74 wrote:
So what happened 30 years ago given that this only happens every 30 years....Graphene frame (or mixed with final layer of Carbon fibre).
Price per gram of that material dropped spectacularly a few years ago.
1989 Trek catalog featured the Trek 5000.
First carbon bike in a catalog mainly dominated by steel frame bikes.
Ffwd 30 years...
My money is on a Graphene based bike.
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [buzz]
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buzz wrote:
i wondered if it was an evolution of the sort of crash-proof fabric scott was experimenting with.
Maybe a new helmet material. Would be important but people would also be meh.
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [ZenTriBrett]
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30 years ago, Lance Armstrong became a pro triathlete, and he's returning with an eye on Kona.
Re: Trek's latest tease..? [iron_mike]
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iron_mike wrote:
i'm guessing it's about sports. trek really loves sports!I'm still all in on the 'sports' prediction. who's with me?
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Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [iliketri]
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X3; I care very little about Trek products but if they don’t bring the goods in this one, i think it will be a huge marketing mistake. Then again, they seek to do very well in that department so I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [Pyrenean Wolf]
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The return of Exogrid!
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [Monsieur Trois]
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Up the head tube to 1.5", slacked it to 66 or 67 degrees, replace the canti bosses with disc mounts, and Im IN.
That looks Sooooooo nice.
That looks Sooooooo nice.
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [GreenPlease]
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GreenPlease wrote:
Twist on my prior guess: 3D printed titanium frame that’s custom sized to each individual rider after a fit session (what does Trek call their fit? Precision Fit?)Robot bikes has been doing some of that for several years
(They 3D print all the junctions (head tube, BB, seat tube junction etc) in Ti, and use carbon tubes between them, and you can spec your own geometry - so no 1:1 linl to a fit session, but you can have a y geometry you want.
Re: Trek's latest tease....thoughts? [ggeiger]
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I’m fairly certain it’s a new highly advanced helmet technology that’s much much safer than current helmets and prevents concussions. It may even almost eliminate concussions from bike crashes! That’s only a guess but we’ll see next week.
"I swim because that's how I get to ride my bike."
"I swim because that's how I get to ride my bike."
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Dopers.Suck: Mar 11, 19 17:54
I'll go with them adopting Ceramic Speed drivetrain technology, dispensing with chains, FD and RD and going direct drive for efficiency gains. Bring it on!