Hi Bryce.

A technical question today. I was doing Warlow last night (dumb trainer with a wahoo speed cadence sensor via iOS 11 on an iPhone 6, and doing the over-unders the power display was taking a long time to respond, close to 30 seconds. Power smoothing was not turned on. Battery on my phone was low (under 20%) but I finished the workout with 9% remaining.

Thoughts? Could that be a result of the power settings on my phone somehow? Or something else?

Either way, having such a long lag makes it difficult to hit targets, I was completely guessing.

I have a question - first off I am new to TrainerRoad and Power, I absolutely love TR and it is fantastic!

My question is this;

I did a FTP test on Wednesday (5/23/18) and this was my 3rd time ever doing a FTP test (20min test). I did it on a dumb trainer (my wahoo was unavailable to be used this time) with my Garmin V3 power pedals (calibrated on TR before usage). I had a result that I was floored with as I just started my training and have been working really hard.

But my graph looked like this;



This is a indication that I really don't know how to FTP test right haha! With 5min to go I had plenty of steam left - however at the end of that 5 min I was cooked.

That netted me a 266 watt avg during the 20 min effort (not corrected by .95).

I then on 5/24/18 go and do a local group ride - I use the same bike and the same pedals and use my Garmin head unit (calibrated before ride) instead of my iPhone with TR - I sit on the front for 90% of the ride and at the end of the ride it notified me that I had a 20min AVG power of 275watt!!!!!!

Looked like this;




I am now lost as what to do - do I set my FTP higher as real world data shows it to be higher (this is right at 4% difference) or do I leave my TR alone. I will say I am not a great indoor trainer guy and try to ride 2/3 rides on the trainer as I find it controls my training better.

FWIW I just finished the Base Phase and Literally just started the Base phase!

Do I chalk it up to environment that gave me the results or maybe the calibration from the TR app to the Garmin unit could be 4% - just looking for some help and feed back!

Using the KK Inride (Just bought a road machine plus inride specifically for my new TR subscription), I do the spindown calibration. I am new to spindowns, so a couple of questions.

1. I did the first, it said calibrated at 1.83........... or something. I dont know what that means. Is there a target?
2. So I do a workout, then 5-10 minutes into the workout I just do a spindown to calibrate during the workout? Do I pause the workout or just make it part of the workout?
3. Anything else I need to know?

I did the FTP test with it and it set my ftp at 175. Im excited to start this structured training.

I did few outdoor rides which I assigned to my TR account and I'm bit confused about TSS in Mondays ride. What is the reason that IF, NP, TSS and elevation gain are different than in Garmin Connect. Sunday and Saturday rides TSS was almost the same.
Duration 2h5 min - Garmin 115TSS, TR 145TSS.

https://www.trainerroad.com/...4779559-evening-ride
https://connect.garmin.com/.../activity/2716647634

natewalsh wrote:

Hi Bryce
I'm a long time TR user and love the product. I can't believe how much my FTP has gone up since I started!

My question has to do with the long weekend bike workouts on the full distance plans. The majority of the workout is spent below ironman race pace (~75%) with only a short period of time at race pace. For example: "Longfellow" has only 15 minutes spent at 75% or race pace in a 4 hour total workout.

I've noticed my HR slowly climbs out of zone 2 sometimes during these long workouts, particularly in the intervals at goal pace. Is this simply a result of cumulative fatigue and will likely not be the case on race day due to tapering?

In other words, will my HR at 75% race power on race day most likely be in the appropriate range as expected and lower than it is in training at race power?

From what I've read its important on race day to stay in HR zone 2 to avoid a blowup.

I'm finishing up the full distance build med volume now and starting the full distance specialty high volume next week.

Thanks!

Nate

Hi Bryce,

My set up at the moment is a kk road machine and despite having a stages power meter, I actually like using the virtual power and have found a reliable power curve over the years. I was thinking of upgrading direct drive with the Elite direto. Curiously, do you know if I used their power curves on trainer road, if any are similar to the kk? I fully expect to do an ftp test to get a new number with a different trainer.
Also I have heard the power floor on the Direto is pretty crap. In other words anything les than 170 watts as an example, you have to shift into the small ring. I'm trying to avoid the small chain ring at all costs, do you know if you can do erg mode in the big chain ring on the direto even at lower power numbers, say 100? i use a 53 up front, and it would be a 25 tooth rear
Thanks mate, not sure if you kow these questions or not!

coates_hbk wrote:

Thanks heaps Bryce! Do you know if the kikr has a crappy wattage floor too? That was another option I was looking at - I’d happily pay the extra to keep it in the big ring for erg mode workouts

Cheers!

Thanks mate. Yep I’m weighing up the cost factor vs conveniences of keeping it in one gear (which is the purpose of erg mode I suppose)


think it will come down to kickr vs hammer.

Not sure of the hammer has much, if any, of a wattage floor

new at trainnerroad... i would like to start a training plan for Ironman Cozumel (18nov), and I have some questions about which to use and how to do it....

At first I have many weeks, but not enough to fix exactly a predefined plan, and I would just finished my triathlon season this sunday (3 middle distance), so I am not in a bad shappe. I would like to take 2 weeks easy (transition) and to start a 21 weeks plan for IMCOZ, with the 70.3 Cascais in week 16th. I would only use TR bike plan (I mean, I would follow bike workouts of ironman plan, or sst or traditional plan).

- Ironman plan (base + build + speciality): 12+8+8 = 28 weeks.
- Traditional or SS Base + Sustained Power + Ironman Speciality: 12+ 8 +8 = 28 weeks.

I like better the idea to follow the ironman plan, but... which weeks would be better to skip? any suggestion?

And the second question, how to do it in TR? when i start a plan, it asks me to set a starting date (today or a earlier date to skip weeks I think)... but coudl I skip a week in the future?

COuld I copy a training plan and edit it to fix my needs??

And the second question, how to do it in TR? when i start a plan, it asks me to set a starting date (today or a earlier date to skip weeks I think)... but coudl I skip a week in the future?

COuld I copy a training plan and edit it to fix my needs??

Need some advice please. I have been riding trainer road for over a year on a Kinetic Road Machine with the kinetic power meter. No iissues and I could always hold my power steady within a few watts.

I just set up my new Direto trainer and did my FTP test. I did the trainer road calibration first. My spindown shows 0s. I am in resistance (non ERG) mode with the resistance set to "none". I have power match disabled (no other power meter).

My power was all over the place! I'm talking instant 20-30 watt swings without any change in cadence. Is this normal?? I'm not saying my power is dead on even, but 20-30 watt changes in the same gear with no cadence change seems high.

Any advice would be appreciated. Worried I shelled out a bunch of money and have a trainer with a problem. I tested a workout with ERG mode on after the FTP test and that seemed to hold power a little better. However, still some decent swings and without ERG mode on it's all over the place.

Thanks!

Hey Rossguy!

The first thing I'd like to point out is that true power output is far from smooth. When you train with the Kinetic inRide, the sensor is essentially just converting a speed reading into an estimated power reading.

Wait, so the KK inside is not acting as a power meter? I thought that was the point of getting the inside was so that it would be more accurate in terms of power.

loxx0050 wrote:

Bryce,

Notice something today on my personal ride feed and wanted to ask about that. Are all user account rides/sessions now private? I recall there used to be a public ride feed that would show people who recently completed a session. But noticed it disappeared and wanted to make sure that was intentional.

Reason being I just realized my real rides that have been imported through Garmin don't have a privacy zone around my home. I never bothered with my Garmin account as I leave all workouts private. On Strava I have one setup though. For now I've finally set up a privacy zone on my Garmin account so it doesn't transfer in anyway to Trainroad just in case. But that does fix all my past rides that uploaded.

Also, I had a short run that Strava thought was a ride. I was able to fix it there but my TR account is still showing it as a ride and I can't delete it or so far can't figure out how. Are there instructions you can provide? Or if not please add that feature to delete improved rides.

Thanks!