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Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [jeffp]
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Lulz at mediocre riders doing massive amounts of drugs to still be mediocre.
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [jeffp]
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Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [cloy]
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Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [jeffp]
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Damn, I was about to call you out for posting old news. Until I realized it was a 4th dude. Insane. Though being from SoCal I'm not about to call out Florida geezers for doping. We have our own geezer doping issues.
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [trail]
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I thought it was a lot from a single event
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [jeffp]
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How can you blame these guys?! There was $450 on the line for the win, and it paid out TEN deep! Huge masters purse.
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Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [jeffp]
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I thought it was a lot from a single eventI'm wondering if anybody they tested wasn't taking drugs.... ?
I don't know what some of that stuff is... or if you might take it by accident. But EPO? That's expensive hard core shit!
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [Bonesbrigade]
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How can you blame these guys?! There was $450 on the line for the win, and it paid out TEN deep! Huge masters purse.I really never understood some of the risks guys were willing to take in a 3/4 field to win what amounted to gas money.
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [ripple]
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ripple wrote:
Bonesbrigade wrote:
How can you blame these guys?! There was $450 on the line for the win, and it paid out TEN deep! Huge masters purse.This.
I really never understood some of the risks guys were willing to take in a 3/4 field to win what amounted to gas money.
And this is probably why we'll never have clean racing or fair competition in society. It's not about the money, and people just can't get their heads around it.
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Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [ericMPro]
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ericMPro wrote:
ripple wrote:
Bonesbrigade wrote:
How can you blame these guys?! There was $450 on the line for the win, and it paid out TEN deep! Huge masters purse.This.
I really never understood some of the risks guys were willing to take in a 3/4 field to win what amounted to gas money.
And this is probably why we'll never have clean racing or fair competition in society. It's not about the money, and people just can't get their heads around it.
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [ripple]
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Maybe pink: I wonder if there's increased druggies in endurance sport due to the influx of "fitness models" and crossfit people?
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [jeffp]
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rather pathetic; it's ~100-person field, three indicated as being DQed so far...
https://legacy.usacycling.org/...year=2018&id=614
https://legacy.usacycling.org/...year=2018&id=614
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [ripple]
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ripple wrote:
ericMPro wrote:
ripple wrote:
Bonesbrigade wrote:
How can you blame these guys?! There was $450 on the line for the win, and it paid out TEN deep! Huge masters purse.This.
I really never understood some of the risks guys were willing to take in a 3/4 field to win what amounted to gas money.
And this is probably why we'll never have clean racing or fair competition in society. It's not about the money, and people just can't get their heads around it.
Disagree somewhat - for some it was about the money. To win, yes some of the risks make sense. But when you're pulling bullshit in the field sprint for 5th place? Or trying to move up during a field sprint to get into the top 10? I did plenty of bike racing. You see it all. These guys wanted to cash. $25, $30, whatever it didn't matter.
What does sprinting have to do with taking drugs?
Absolutely massive differences in what you're posting.
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [ericMPro]
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ericMPro wrote:
ripple wrote:
Bonesbrigade wrote:
How can you blame these guys?! There was $450 on the line for the win, and it paid out TEN deep! Huge masters purse.This.
I really never understood some of the risks guys were willing to take in a 3/4 field to win what amounted to gas money.
And this is probably why we'll never have clean racing or fair competition in society. It's not about the money, and people just can't get their heads around it.
What you said. And more. Mother's little helper has become everyone's little helper. I'm old enough that the doctor will give me a T prescription. I haven't raced for 2 years and may not ever race again, but I still struggle with the idea of taking it. Then there's the ads on TV. "Trust me, she'll like it, too." Jerry Garcia once said if there was a pill that would make him smarter, he'd take it. Sometimes I think we've become a doping society, for the everyday bumps and pebbles in the road, not just chronic and acute issues.
Now, excuse me, it's time for my rum.
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [rubik]
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Absolutely nothing. My original response was a piggy-back on BonesBrigade making fun of the purse size.
Carry on.
Carry on.
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [ripple]
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ripple wrote:
Absolutely nothing. My original response was a piggy-back on BonesBrigade making fun of the purse size. Carry on.
Equating sprinting as a risk akin to taking drugs, regardless of payout, is asinine.
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [rubik]
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"win at all costs" for $450 purses, is asinine. drugs or risks. it has to do with the mentality.
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [echappist]
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and I am sure they caught them all................
tends to point to just how rampant doping might be in amateur sports, but i am sure triathlon is the one clean one :)
tends to point to just how rampant doping might be in amateur sports, but i am sure triathlon is the one clean one :)
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [ripple]
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ripple wrote:
"win at all costs" for $450 purses, is asinine.The purse has nothing to do with it, though!
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [ripple]
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ripple wrote:
"win at all costs" for $450 purses, is asinine. drugs or risks. it has to do with the mentality.You have an extremely convoluted notion of risk, cheating, and sport.
That's the only issue with mentality I see here.
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [rubik]
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rubik wrote:
ripple wrote:
"win at all costs" for $450 purses, is asinine. drugs or risks. it has to do with the mentality.You have an extremely convoluted notion of risk, cheating, and sport.
That's the only issue with mentality I see here.
I’m pretty sure ripple isn’t comparing sprinting for 10th and taking drugs in masters racing. We’re all saying the same thing about the silliness of all this. Ripple is just giving another example of silliness. That is all.
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Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [Bonesbrigade]
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Thanks Bones. I've already given up!
Re: This must be the to do cycling race in MIami [Bonesbrigade]
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We’re all saying the same thing about the silliness of all this. Ripple is just giving another example of silliness. That is all.False equivalency of "silly," though. Sprinting for minor places can be breach of etiquette, and usually isn't a big deal. Doping is cheating, and is a violation of the entire premise of fair competition. Completely different threads
trail wrote:
Bonesbrigade wrote:
We’re all saying the same thing about the silliness of all this. Ripple is just giving another example of silliness. That is all.
False equivalency of "silly," though. Sprinting for minor places can be breach of etiquette, and usually isn't a big deal. Doping is cheating, and is a violation of the entire premise of fair competition. Completely different threads
OMG guys, who the heck said they were equivilant? This is typical message board behaviour where you are assuming that’s what someone is saying.
We all know doping is cheating and yes sprinting for 10th is not even close to be the same thing. BUT, they are both in the pot of silliness of masters road racing behaviour.
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Bonesbrigade: Jan 22, 19 9:59