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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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Who is the fastest runner of starky wurf amberger?
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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depends on the winds and the dynamic of the chase group. Right now the DS for Erdinger has sent Dreitz to the front to ride tempo so I doubt Wurf et al can get much more than they've got.

OTOH, if people start looking around at each other, and some attacks go off the front, Gomez and Lange might sit in with the wrong pack and lose a bit more time.

Either way it won't be enough. We're about to see a running war

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Wurf only has a 4 minute gap on the Lange/Gomez group at 59 miles in. Do they hammer it after Kawaihae and get a 15+ minute gap by T2? I think they probably cannot get a big enough gap.

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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [trineuropa] [ In reply to ]
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trineuropa wrote:
ericMPro wrote:
tracker has Sanders only a minute behind the main chase pack. He seems to have separated from Keinle.

Pun_Times wrote:
Currie, Lange, Gomez starting the run together would be interesting. Even more interesting if Keinle and Sanders catches up to the group by then


Sebi is a minute down from Sanders

Too bad about the rear wheel. What depth rear wheel was Kienle initially running? And wonder what tire is on the rear wheel now? The risk/benefit analysis for swapping wheel vs changing his tire at that time is tricky?

My money is on a Conti Gatorskin
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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Top seal of Charles' hydration sail appears to be back on
Last edited by: trineuropa: Oct 13, 18 12:57
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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If Lange stays with Gomez (which he will try to do) it will be a very interesting marathon. Basically Lange is saying I will get to T2 with you and on your first IMWC you will have to run 2:39 to beat me. Game on!

Now Currie is there or will be there and he can run, Lionel will put everything out after the turnaround. This thing wide open and will be a very close finish.
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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The chase pack is big

Caefrae in there I bet she is going to run onto the podium
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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Pro Women - Thru Bike Split 8 - 49.89 mi
1 2:56:25 Lucy Charles
2 3:04:07 7:42 Daniela Ryf
3 3:04:08 7:43 Sarah Crowley
4 3:07:25 11:00 Corinne Abraham
5 3:08:34 12:09 Jocelyn McCauley
6 3:09:01 12:36 Kaisa Sali
7 3:09:02 12:37 Liz Blatchford
8 3:09:03 12:39 Carrie Lester
9 3:09:05 12:40 Rachel McBride
10 3:09:06 12:42 Sarah True

This is the second race where Ironman has blamed technical issues on not having good coverage of the women (IMMT the other, maybe others I didn't watch)...

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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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women's race is shaping up to be pretty interesting... first of all, Mirinda Carfrae made the chase pack and has been sitting in for most of the ride. Next, I think it's like 4th thru 20th in the chase pack, all 12min down on Lucy. I wonder if Sarah True or Mirinda can run their way up to the podium or if the podium is already set

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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [Culley22] [ In reply to ]
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The only one riding faster than Lionel, is Wurf. Lots of racing still left, I thinks still it's too early to write him off.
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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RowToTri wrote:
Wurf only has a 4 minute gap on the Lange/Gomez group at 59 miles in. Do they hammer it after Kawaihae and get a 15+ minute gap by T2? I think they probably cannot get a big enough gap.
Somebody up thread predicted a 15 min gap into T2, but I just don't see it happening.
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [andreasjs] [ In reply to ]
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I was just saying that... did she have an amazing swim??

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The chase pack is big

Caefrae in there I bet she is going to run onto the podium

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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [altayloraus] [ In reply to ]
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On my fourth double whisky now.
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WĂĽrf to put ten into Starky.

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I don’t see Wurf putting that kind of time into Starky. I think the most likely scenario is that they come off the bike together.

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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [Fusion] [ In reply to ]
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Got a closer look in one of the pictures.. Looks like a Vittoria.

Fusion wrote:
trineuropa wrote:
ericMPro wrote:
tracker has Sanders only a minute behind the main chase pack. He seems to have separated from Keinle.

Pun_Times wrote:
Currie, Lange, Gomez starting the run together would be interesting. Even more interesting if Keinle and Sanders catches up to the group by then


Sebi is a minute down from Sanders

Too bad about the rear wheel. What depth rear wheel was Kienle initially running? And wonder what tire is on the rear wheel now? The risk/benefit analysis for swapping wheel vs changing his tire at that time is tricky?

My money is on a Conti Gatorskin

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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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here is the link to just the live blog:

http://embed.scribblelive.com/...42&ThemeId=33838
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [Fusion] [ In reply to ]
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I once crashed in a crit and was given a pit bike. I couldn't hang with the pack after going from my latex and fast tires to the pit bike's gatorskins, lol

Fusion wrote:
trineuropa wrote:
ericMPro wrote:
tracker has Sanders only a minute behind the main chase pack. He seems to have separated from Keinle.

Pun_Times wrote:
Currie, Lange, Gomez starting the run together would be interesting. Even more interesting if Keinle and Sanders catches up to the group by then


Sebi is a minute down from Sanders

Too bad about the rear wheel. What depth rear wheel was Kienle initially running? And wonder what tire is on the rear wheel now? The risk/benefit analysis for swapping wheel vs changing his tire at that time is tricky?


My money is on a Conti Gatorskin

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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [andreasjs] [ In reply to ]
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The question is will she stay in that pack after the turnaround? The good thing for her is she's not losing massive time this year as the last year she was in Kona. If she stays there a podium is almost sure.
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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I think some are going to have to attack, and this imo will be when Gomez's "weakness" is shown when ooops he sat on the wrong wheels, as I think some within the group are def going to push the gaps.... but I also think with the gaps where they are and even where they likely are- Lange and Gomez are in really good position that they dont really need to do anything......head down, 11.999m behind guy in front.

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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [trailerhouse] [ In reply to ]
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trailerhouse wrote:
Got a closer look in one of the pictures.. Looks like a Vittoria.

Fusion wrote:
trineuropa wrote:
ericMPro wrote:
tracker has Sanders only a minute behind the main chase pack. He seems to have separated from Keinle.

Pun_Times wrote:
Currie, Lange, Gomez starting the run together would be interesting. Even more interesting if Keinle and Sanders catches up to the group by then


Sebi is a minute down from Sanders

Too bad about the rear wheel. What depth rear wheel was Kienle initially running? And wonder what tire is on the rear wheel now? The risk/benefit analysis for swapping wheel vs changing his tire at that time is tricky?


My money is on a Conti Gatorskin

I have NO IDEA what I am talking about with this, but when a flat tire is in the first few miles of the race - does it make more sense to just change your own tire than take a neutral support wheel? More time/distance for aero and rolling resistance to make a difference. What do the ST armchair specialists say?
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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Looked like Lucy was catching some of the pro men. Maybe she can find a group to ride with. Not sure if Ryf and Crowley working together or if Ryf doing everything herself.
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [trineuropa] [ In reply to ]
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Top seal of Charles' hydration sail appears to be back on

Given she has a Xlab BTA on, I'm not convinced she's using the hydration sail at all.

Everything about that sail says "designer has never tried to fill it whilst riding"
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [fierceSun] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting. Does it auto-refresh?






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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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I think the way Charles broke that swim open allowed for her to sit on someone's feet on the swim that would otherwise may have been in a bigger group (not sure) but one thing is that apparenty she's been improving quite a bit on the bike (got best bike split at Augusta at least)
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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yeah, I think Gomez and Lange were the last two on the main chase pack train. Thing is, nobody in front is a threat. This is why I'm lamenting TO not being up there with Amberger.

Sanders is about to make contact with the chase pack, so the dynamic might be changing soon.

B_Doughtie wrote:
I think some are going to have to attack, and this imo will be when Gomez's "weakness" is shown when ooops he sat on the wrong wheels, as I think some within the group are def going to push the gaps.... but I also think with the gaps where they are and even where they likely are- Lange and Gomez are in really good position that they dont really need to do anything......head down, 11.999m behind guy in front.

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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [mbwallis] [ In reply to ]
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Ugh. Lucy drops her SN bottle and goes on without it.
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Re: The official 2018 IRONMAN Kona World Championships thread [rodchaves31] [ In reply to ]
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I think the way Charles broke that swim open allowed for her to sit on someone's feet on the swim that would otherwise may have been in a bigger group (not sure) but one thing is that apparenty she's been improving quite a bit on the bike (got best bike split at Augusta at least)

Looked like she was trying to squirt into her hydration sail and dropped the bottle. Why else would she have taken the seal off?
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