A buddy of mine got one of the 40 freebie slots to commemorate the 40th anniversary, so there's that crowd as well.

Well put. Wasn't one of the guys 80+ yrs old they said?

i have gone round and round on this with the rules folks at USAT, and you hit on it precisely. we've wordsmithed this with some precision. i don't know if any of that ever made it into the official rules. but, what i've argued for throughout is language that talks about "subordinating [or abandoning] your race ambitions" to another's race. that's what would separate legality from illegality. chrabot abandoned his own race ambitions, "ambitions" defined as tactics designed to get you to the finish in the lowest elapsed time. i don't see dreitz doing that (so far). i don't think it matters what country they're front or what kit they're wearing. it's whether dreitz feels that he's better off riding in that pack, with lange, or not. that would determine the legality of it, or should determine it.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Currie last year.

Not to anyone in particular, and apologies if already answered...did Kienle flat or have to change wheels? Front looks deeper than rear, and rear doesn’t have any stickers.

Did kienle have a flat his rear is different ... Sorry can't watch live

Yes, he needed a new rear wheel in the first 5-10 miles.

Have to say I am very impressed with both Starky and Wurf, they are holding probably 20m between them.

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Terrible Tuesday’s Triathlon

Not that he didn't crack relative to Jan and Alistair, but he still ran a 1:08...

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Chasing PB Podcast Latest interview with Eli Hemming on Targeting a US MTR spot in Tokyo

You don't necessarily have to qualify to get a number ...

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"The first virtue in a soldier is endurance of fatigue; courage is only the second virtue."
- Napoleon Bonaparte

i guess i do misunderstand, because i thought i was reading pretty similar disdain for gomez's riding behavior.



Oh the disdain for Gomez is here and palatable, but it is a stupid tack to have. Guy is riding his race, planning for the last couple hours right now. But I hate Greg and the other mouthpieces that keep saying that Dreitz and Lange are teammates. THEY are from the same country, they are from Europe, but no one is a teammate today. There are plenty of teams of connivence out there, and they will change as the day moves on. Lets call them countrymen guys, until of course we see one drop back for the other and it is completely obvious that once is sacrificing their race for the other...

And how sad is that..

Anyways: close-ups on lange's bike show an empto bento.. he surviving on just liquids? He'll be peeing like a horse by the time he get's off his bike haha

New Kona drinking game, take a shot every time you hear the commentators say "you'll see the likes of..."

Finally, the womens split is up:

Pro Women - Thru Bike Split 7 - 41.75 mi

1 2:34:02 Lucy Charles F2
2 2:42:04 8:02 Daniela Ryf F1
3 2:42:05 8:04 Sarah Crowley F3
4 2:44:38 10:36 Corinne Abraham F25
5 2:44:56 10:54 Jocelyn McCauley F16
6 2:44:57 10:55 Liz Blatchford F21
7 2:44:58 10:56 Helle Frederiksen F29
8 2:44:59 10:57 Michelle Vesterby F20
9 2:45:02 11:00 Anne Haug F35
10 2:45:04 11:02 Rachel McBride F26

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Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/

I'm already hammered

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Chasing PB Podcast Latest interview with Eli Hemming on Targeting a US MTR spot in Tokyo

Starky looked a little close there

Indeed

From the 42mi to 50mi splits, they put in about 40s on the runners.

I was just about to say that this was the first time in history that Starky was drafting and had someone to draft....Josh meanwhile is playing it really safe, and he has the lightweight climb advantage so should be able to stay with them. This is where Wurf toasted him last year....he's been waiting to not get dropped by these guys going up to Hawi. As slowman said, Josh may have played out his matches much better this year

But I hate Greg and the other mouthpieces that keep saying that Dreitz and Lange are teammates. THEY are from the same country, they are from Europe, but no one is a teammate today.

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I actually thought they were on the same sponsored team (Team Erdinger) thus the same suit minus Lange's world champ bands on his thigh.

(note- I think they are doing things on the legal as as Slowman says no one is giving up their own ambition, *yet*)

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Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II

I'm dying to see the Sebi and Lionel really get into the mix and roll by Lange!

i hope people notice that starky and wurf are not riding any funky positions. nothing arcane or really low, or long. quite unlike the current TT record positions. they look just like you and me on our bikes. same with most of the male pros in the first 2 or 3 packs.

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Dan Empfield
aka Slowman

Starky looked a little close there //

They were going uphill and he had just gotten passed(and it was a head on helicopter shot), come on guys, cut them some slack. You can't ride 112 miles and not be close at some point, especially with so many passes and lead changes. They are riding the same as the back groups, so a fair fight..

Fair enough

There was a closeup of Lange a few minutes ago that showed a lot of wrinkles in his Tri suit shoulders. Would he be more aero in a sleeveless?

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Let food be thy medicine...