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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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kileyay wrote:
LAI wrote:
kileyay wrote:
0.22 about. No other numbers will be disclosed now


I didn't even think we'd get that. Thanks for sharing.


Keep in mind this exercise is in no way to optimize aero and CdA. Decisions were made to standardize variables across equipment. I am actually a bit higher on the stack here because we couldn't get the P5 as low as I wanted, so we brought everything else up slightly. Kit might also be slow but it has less potential for wrinkling than sleeved.

Stay tuned. Results looks very very consistent at zero yaw. I am holding still like my race depends on it.

If you haven't already, please share the social media or throw in a few bucks. We have already hit some impossible to predict snags in equipment that have robbed us of time. Who knew the thru axle threads were different between Andean and P5-X? I mean really, guys?

Thru axles...<smh>...

Good luck today!


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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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Contribution made. Hope all goes well.
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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [Halfcrazy] [ In reply to ]
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P5 is up next

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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"Who knew the thru axle threads were different between Andean and P5-X?"

me? but i take your point.

i'm getting an exploro, and as i recall this bike is 15mm front thru axle and 12mm rear. which is kinda weird. i commenced a thread some weeks back on thru axle adapters so that i could use various wheels on various bikes. it's a real bitch, that's for sure!

Dan Empfield
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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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The amazing thing is that a 12x142 rear thru axle may have a different thread from frame to frame, and on forks it is a total shit show on what TA works with what fork. I love how loosely the bike industry uses the term "standard"

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [MTBSully] [ In reply to ]
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+2 and makes it easier for the consumer to find replacement items when needed.
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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Can I just say, Dan, that after all the furore over this the last couple of weeks, good on you for not only making this thread a sticky but also contributing in a positive, friendly and constructive manner. We're all going to benefit from this (whether in real terms from the data gained or purely from an entertainment perspective) and you've shown yourself in a great light for letting this go ahead, in this manner, on the forum.

So, again, thank you.
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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Of what you've shot/run so far the P5 "looks" the fastest.

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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Random question...are you wearing a watch? Was that intentional?
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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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no one wants to guess which will win?

Dan, how about a poll? at 0 yaw + rider on, which bike will test fastest***********?







***********caveats may apply

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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he wears a watch when he races.
Remember this test is set up for how Kiley races

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Yes. That's how he races.

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [afurlong] [ In reply to ]
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P5
Tactical
Andean
P5-X
Ventum
B2

Let's se how I do. My guess is that they are within 15 watts from first to worst and the top 3 are within 5 watts.

ETA: Results are at 0-5 watts with the bikes with sails (Andean/P5-X/Ventum) doing better at higher yaws.

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [ In reply to ]
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Ex-cyclist and I are also posting pics on IG and twitter

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [afurlong] [ In reply to ]
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afurlong wrote:
no one wants to guess which will win?

Dan, how about a poll? at 0 yaw + rider on, which bike will test fastest***********?







***********caveats may apply

Tactical...i hope. How cool would that be that the most ecomomical bike is also the fastest?

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [MTBSully] [ In reply to ]
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The amazing thing is that a 12x142 rear thru axle may have a different thread from frame to frame, and on forks it is a total shit show on what TA works with what fork. I love how loosely the bike industry uses the term "standard"

Not to mention that TA on a rear is just silly. The ONLY reason a TA rear needs to be 142mm wide is to gain back the locating feature eliminated by getting rid of the axle dropout. It's not any "stiffer" either. Madness.

And TAs on the front don't really solve any problem that large axle cap faces and a forwarding facing dropout wouldn't solve with a regular QR.

"Shit show" is a good phrase for all of it...change just for the sake of change.

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [afurlong] [ In reply to ]
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I posted my guesses on p. 1 of the other thread.

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [kjmcawesome] [ In reply to ]
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kjmcawesome wrote:
P5
Tactical
Andean
P5-X
Ventum
B2

Let's se how I do. My guess is that they are within 15 watts from first to worst and the top 3 are within 5 watts.

ETA: Results are at 0-5 watts with the bikes with sails (Andean/P5-X/Ventum) doing better at higher yaws.

1) Ventum
2) Andean/P5X virtual tie
3) P5
4) Tactical
5) B2

The entire spread is ~10w.

Out at 10 degrees I'd guess

1) Ventum
2) Andean
3) P5x
4) P5
5) Tactical
6) B2

Entire spread is...maybe 15w.
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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [Timtek] [ In reply to ]
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Diamondback Andean is up next

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [James Haycraft] [ In reply to ]
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1. Ventum
2. P5
3. Andean
4. Tactical
5. B2
6. P5X
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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [SBRcoffee] [ In reply to ]
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P5
Andean
Ventum
Tactical
P5x
B2

First 3 very close, unsure about the tactical, wider spreads on the x and b2

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [kjmcawesome] [ In reply to ]
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Going with order of testing (1st bikes test faster) even though I don't believe in reality it would be accurate....
Keeping a good position during all that can be a bitch...and that's an understatement.
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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [lbmxj560] [ In reply to ]
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"good on you for not only making this thread a sticky but also contributing in a positive, friendly and constructive manner"

thanks for saying so, but my intent was always to contribute to in a positive, friendly and constructive manner. i don't think my stipulations were over-burdensome. i'm much more comfortable with kileyay - and his current demeanor - in charge of this test than i would have been with publiusvalerius - and his demeanor - in charge of this test. so far, so good.

Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [afurlong] [ In reply to ]
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what don't we know yet? that would be meaningful? if anything? and i'll put up a poll on that.

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Re: The Aero Bike Shootout TEST DAY THREAD [Bernoullitrial] [ In reply to ]
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Going with order of testing (1st bikes test faster) even though I don't believe in reality it would be accurate....
Keeping a good position during all that can be a bitch...and that's an understatement.

Only if you have a crappy position. If there's one thing I've learned from field testing (and being in a wind tunnel) is that a GOOD TT/Tri position is very repeatable/"hold-able", especially as compared to road positions. With a good TT/Tri position, you should be basically "locked in"...if you're not, it's not a good position.

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