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Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes
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WTF! It seems Team Sky's key players are recon-ing climbs and I don't see many other teams doing the same? Then everyone bitches when they smash the competition ๐Ÿ˜‚.
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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I heard on the Dauphine broadcast they recon'd some climbs by accident = took a wrong turn and ended up going on climbs that weren't in the Dauphine profile, but will show up in July

"Hey! While we're here ..."

Or something like that

โ€œDonโ€™t take your ability to do stupid things for grantedโ€
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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thatzone wrote:
WTF! It seems Team Sky's key players are recon-ing climbs and I don't see many other teams doing the same? Then everyone bitches when they smash the competition ๐Ÿ˜‚.

Funny the 'everyone who does really well in sport are doping' brigade have missed this thread.
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [Jackets] [ In reply to ]
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Jackets wrote:
thatzone wrote:
WTF! It seems Team Sky's key players are recon-ing climbs and I don't see many other teams doing the same? Then everyone bitches when they smash the competition ๐Ÿ˜‚.


Funny the 'everyone who does really well in sport are doping' brigade have missed this thread.

That's because the entire thread is based on a false premise.
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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Lots of riders preparing for the Tour via the Tour de Suisse too so they are probably occupied this week. ;-)
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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Don't be silly.

Other GC teams have done some of their TDF Recons as early as January

For example Nibali Reconed parts of the TDF in April and says he'll be back in July.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vincenzo-nibali-2018-tour-de-france-cobbles-more-dangerous-than-recent-years/


Romain Bardet:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bardet-hits-paris-roubaix-cobbles-in-tour-de-france-recon/


Movistar:
http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/nairo-quintana-mikel-landa-alejandro-valverde-recon-cobbles-ahead-2018-tour-de-france-376223




Teams typically recon stages that are near races. not everyone has the budget to fly their TDF team out ( to what is essentially a training camp)


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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
I heard on the Dauphine broadcast they recon'd some climbs by accident = took a wrong turn and ended up going on climbs that weren't in the Dauphine profile, but will show up in July

"Hey! While we're here ..."

Or something like that

Rod doesnโ€™t make mistakes when it comes to stuff like that, its his bread & butter.

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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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let me rephrase that... team sky go for scenic cycle touring rides while other teams are honing their racing form at dauphine/suisse

the reality is neither is true, all teams are doing more or less the same but with timing or specifics varied according to their individual circumstances. eg froome raced giro so is not racing now and has time to check out some climbs. others have already done their recon or will be in the next weeks. bardet for example was on alpe de huez the other day at the same time as froome.
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [pk1] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds like the same line of BS Lance and Bruynel used to spin. No one else does it like us. We're The only ones doing recon rides
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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thatzone wrote:
WTF! It seems Team Sky's key players are recon-ing climbs and I don't see many other teams doing the same? Then everyone bitches when they smash the competition ๐Ÿ˜‚.

Yeah, it's like the other teams are all sitting on the beach drinking beer while Sky has figured out this top secret thing called training.
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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Not sure what your source is but Froome and Bardet were on Alpe D'Huez at the same time! That must mean that Bardet gets second place?


http://www.velonews.com/2018/06/news/bardet-froome-take-early-peek-at-alpe-dhuez_469466


(Also: I'm not sure that reconning Alpe D'Huez is a competitive advantage. Maybe if you're looking to bring Bernal and he's never done it, but they climb that thing every other year. Sometimes twice!)
Last edited by: timbasile: Jun 14, 18 17:22
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [timbasile] [ In reply to ]
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timbasile wrote:


(Also: I'm not sure that reconning Alpe D'Huez is a competitive advantage. Maybe if you're looking to bring Bernal and he's never done it, but they climb that thing every other year. Sometimes twice!)

I agree that the OP is a bit silly to insinuate that other teams are not doing recon work, or have not done it, or are being lazy in general.

However, I do think at least for team Sky, that more recon work is necessary if they plan to do the whole Sky Train thing. Each man has to know the layout of the final or deciding climb of each mountain stage, not just Froome. And even when each rider on Sky knows the layout of the deciding climb, they each need a general idea of where each man is expected to go to the front, how hard they are expected to go, and how long he is supposed to last before handing it over to the next guy, and the next guy, then to Froome.

If you're Bardet, you don't have as many teammates expected to be there (if any) on some of these deciding climbs, so the planning becomes quite a bit easier. Just follow the Sky train until about maybe this point, then decide if you want to attack or follow an attack.
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [Jason N] [ In reply to ]
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Perhaps they should recon more in Belgium in February.
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Re: Team Sky recon TDF while other teams are playing patty cakes [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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thatzone wrote:
WTF! It seems Team Sky's key players are recon-ing climbs and I don't see many other teams doing the same? Then everyone bitches when they smash the competition ๐Ÿ˜‚.

That's because Froome raced the Giro with his key players and probably won't race until the Tour. I am sure those getting ready for the Tour by racing now (basically all the other favourites) did recons during the Giro.
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