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lllusion
Sep 18, 19 10:56
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What Tri/TT bikes are available with disc brakes? And do they allow alternative cockpits?

Current list as a google sheet.
(Gràcies cyclenutnz.)

Can you provide more information?
i.e.
* more frame models
* cockpit information: proprietary or not
* comments on manufacturing build quality, aerodynamics, value, etc.
/Howie Nordström
Last edited by: lllusion: Sep 18, 19 22:01
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Chemist
Sep 18, 19 11:18
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What are you referring to with the ‘quality’ tab?

For Cervelo, you have to separate out the PX’s and P5 disc (which have manufacturer cockpits) with the P-series which can use any cockpit.

For Quintana Roo. The PR4-5 you can use any cockpit. But the PR6 I believe you have to use the supplied stem so you are limited as to what cockpits you can put on there

Your list also needs the Specialized Shiv Tri and Shiv TT (two distinct bikes), BMC time machine, Felt IA, Wilier Turbine. Probably some more but that’s what I can think off off the top of my head
Matt
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lllusion
Sep 18, 19 11:29
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Chemist wrote:
What are you referring to with the ‘quality’ tab?

Carbon layup.
Overly large tolerances.
Anything else you'd consider as affecting the quality of build, maintenance, long-term ownership, etc.

Chemist wrote:
that’s what I can think off off the top of my head

Mahalo for the input!
/Howie Nordström
Last edited by: lllusion: Sep 18, 19 11:30
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Callin'
Sep 18, 19 11:31
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why are cervelo's frame quality "suspect"? what do you have to back up such a claim?
the world's still turning? >>>>>>> the world's still turning
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realbdeal
Sep 18, 19 11:32
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Ceepo Shadow and Shadow-R

Both able to accept any cockpit but most often spec'd with the Vision Metron TFA. Lots of good performances on the standard forked Shadow but not a whole lot of wind tunnel information out there.
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lllusion
Sep 18, 19 11:42
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Callin' wrote:
why are cervelo's frame quality "suspect"? what do you have to back up such a claim?

I've been told that some tolerances have been increased to a degree that various manufacturers won't warranty their parts on Cervélo bikes.
/Howie Nordström
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trail
Sep 18, 19 11:43
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Callin' wrote:
why are cervelo's frame quality "suspect"? what do you have to back up such a claim?

And why is Pinarello "superior?"
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trail
Sep 18, 19 11:45
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lllusion wrote:
Callin' wrote:
why are cervelo's frame quality "suspect"? what do you have to back up such a claim?

I've been told that various tolerances have changed such that various manufacturers won't warranty their parts on Cervélo bikes.


Teen told by whom? What tolerances? What manufacturers? Can you point to a written warranty contract that specifically voids the contract for Cervelo frames?
Last edited by: trail: Sep 18, 19 11:45
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Callin'
Sep 18, 19 11:45
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lllusion wrote:
Callin' wrote:
why are cervelo's frame quality "suspect"? what do you have to back up such a claim?
I've been told that various tolerances have changed such that various manufacturers won't warranty their parts on Cervélo bikes.

ok, for sake of argument, who told you? and what tolerances? what manufacturers won't accept a warranty claim?
the world's still turning? >>>>>>> the world's still turning
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lllusion
Sep 18, 19 11:46
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trail wrote:
told by whom? What tolerances? What manufacturers? Can you point to a written warranty contract that specifically voids the contract for Cervelo frames?
Working on it.
/Howie Nordström
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gmh39
Sep 18, 19 12:00
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lllusion wrote:
Callin' wrote:
why are cervelo's frame quality "suspect"? what do you have to back up such a claim?

I've been told that some tolerances have been increased to a degree that various manufacturers won't warranty their parts on Cervélo bikes.

This sounds like some Hambini shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWDztuezn0g
Strava
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lllusion
Sep 18, 19 12:04
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gmh39 wrote:
This sounds like some Hambini shit.
That's one reason that I'm attempting to verify it. One, overly dramatic, source doesn't cut it.
/Howie Nordström
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Callin'
Sep 18, 19 12:04
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I was thinking the same thing....too much time on youtube listening to hambini's bullshit
the world's still turning? >>>>>>> the world's still turning
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el gato
Sep 18, 19 12:06
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Callin' wrote:
lllusion wrote:
Callin' wrote:
why are cervelo's frame quality "suspect"? what do you have to back up such a claim?

I've been told that various tolerances have changed such that various manufacturers won't warranty their parts on Cervélo bikes.


ok, for sake of argument, who told you? and what tolerances? what manufacturers won't accept a warranty claim?

The quality of this thread is suspect.
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gmh39
Sep 18, 19 12:07
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I'd hardly call him a source...
Strava
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lllusion
Sep 18, 19 12:09
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el gato wrote:
The quality of this thread is suspect.
Then perhaps we can get back on point and stick to Tri/TT frames for/with disc brakes, and the cockpit possibilities.
/Howie Nordström
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lllusion
Sep 18, 19 12:11
Post #17 of 22 (2731 views)
gmh39 wrote:
I'd hardly call him a source...
More of a blowhard than reliable, for certain.
/Howie Nordström
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hambini
Sep 18, 19 13:21
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lllusion wrote:
gmh39 wrote:
I'd hardly call him a source...

More of a blowhard than reliable, for certain.

I'm not the source, you can google a few but here is where i got it from

https://bikerumor.com/...of-ceramic-bearings/

Scroll down to the question by Jordi, he obviously knew.

Hambini
HELLO HAMBINI FANS!!!
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cyclenutnz
Sep 18, 19 15:39
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Don't conflate expensive and superior, much as Pinarello and Specialized would like you to.

It was easier to put your table into a google sheet
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mauricemaher
Sep 18, 19 19:46
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gmh39 wrote:
lllusion wrote:
Callin' wrote:
why are cervelo's frame quality "suspect"? what do you have to back up such a claim?

I've been told that some tolerances have been increased to a degree that various manufacturers won't warranty their parts on Cervélo bikes.

This sounds like some Hambini shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWDztuezn0g

“How to destroy a frame and void the warranty in 49 minutes or less!”

Maurice
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lllusion
Sep 18, 19 22:01
Post #21 of 22 (2375 views)
cyclenutnz wrote:
Don't conflate expensive and superior, much as Pinarello and Specialized would like you to.
Agreed. ...Although I'd be more apt to conflate the former than the latter. But yeah, I gather info, listen to opinions, put it back out there for feedback, and so on. I appreciate your input!

cyclenutnz wrote:
It was easier to put your table into a google sheet
Thanks!!
And mahalo for the additional information.
/Howie Nordström
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hambini
Sep 21, 19 14:00
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mauricemaher wrote:
gmh39 wrote:
lllusion wrote:
Callin' wrote:
why are cervelo's frame quality "suspect"? what do you have to back up such a claim?

I've been told that some tolerances have been increased to a degree that various manufacturers won't warranty their parts on Cervélo bikes.


This sounds like some Hambini shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWDztuezn0g


“How to destroy a frame and void the warranty in 49 minutes or less!”

Maurice

And you are pretty ignorant to ignore it.
HELLO HAMBINI FANS!!!
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