no, do you think it is fare?, when Michael Phelp retires and enter local swim meet, it will be fare.

i work 60 hours a week, while a pro train 6 hours a day, when he retires because he or she ar no longer good enough, in the pro division, they come over the my AG and kick my ass.

a special division need to be created, we have one for "BIG" people, one for challenged athletes, one for CEO,

Holy shit...is this really how the world thinks? Please tell me I'm not in the minority.

If I work 61 hours a week and you only work 60, can I get a special division for me too?

When my kids were little, they had a thousand different divisions, so EVERYONE WAS A WINNER. That was when they were 6 and you as an adult are essentially asking for the same thing.

When did we get to a point in race culture where everyone needs to win? At a certain point, do you really give a crap if you take home some dopey award from the 12th Annual East Bumbleshit Triathlon?

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Oh good lord,suck it up.....You should feel honoured to share a lane with Micheal Phelps...

I have raced against many retired pro triathletes and have no worries getting my ass kicked...I REALLY enjoy having my ass slapped by the female pros ...

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If Phelps ever did do the master swimming route, the general attitude would probably be that it was fucking awesome to get to line up on the blocks in the same heat as Michael fucking Phelps. But then swimming has more of a 'you're always racing yourself' attitude and it doesn't matter so much to lose to MP if he helps pull you to a best time or best recent time in an event.

This kind of question pops up when the big guns show up at local meets and its generally seen as a very positive thing. (North Baltimore's annual Christmas meet is pretty well known for drawing a ton of international level swimmers including Michael Phelps mixing with kids who barely have A cuts, and a good time seems to be had for all there.)

so why do we have so many age group then, let's just have a open division for everyone.

i don't beleive in "everyone is a winner" mentality.

i have won plenty, and lost plenty. and raise my daughter, with the attidute that you have to work harder than the guy next door if you want to win.

but common a Olympian in a AG!!!!, i am not saying they can't race. i am saying they should be in a "Open division" and anyone who want to race against them can enter that division.

oh wait it's called a Elite/ open divsion in Triathlon

Don't Kidd yourself .....i here you were studly when you were younger :0)

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Missy Franklin is probably going to swim high school season in Colorado this year. You know, the girl who would have four long course world records (200 free, 200 back, 400 MR, 800FR) if you exclude marks from the 08-09 tech suit era. There will be coaches who try to schedule their girls around what she's swimming at Colorado's state meet, and other coaches who will shrug and admit that unless she DQs, everyone else is swimming for second place. It's just the nature of the beast.

5 years down the road, Michael Phelp, Lance Armstrong and Chrissy Wellington show up at a triathlon in the coed team division, would it be fare to the rest of the teams?

not really, it would be great, but not really a even field.

again i am not saying they shouldn't race,

I raced against Brad Beven during the height of his career at our local events in Cairns and never begrudged the fact that he put me off the podium every time he showed up...Now that he is retired I think it is great that I get to see others race against the legend...

I never hear anyone in Australia bitching that Brad or Emma Carney race age group in Noosa...

I never hear anyone in Australia bitching that Chappo cranks out 8:30 age group times in Ironman in Oz..

I never hear anyone bitching that Dawn Fraser smashes age group records in the pool in Aussie swim meets..

I never heard anyone at the Crocodile Trophy in Oz bitch about Phil Anderson racing..

Maybe we just don't bitch so much down there and are just happy to race against these great athletes..

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Nah, yer all just too drunk to care. ;-)

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"One of the dumber statements I've read lately. "

Now, now Catherine, settle down.

I'm sure Lance will be coming out of retirement any day now to pursue a national amateur cycling championship.

Correction...Susan Williams is the first and only U.S. Olympian to medal in triathlon in the history of the games.

yeah, murphy'slaw! so there! and if you say anything else so obviously stupid i'm going to call you out!

two years later ;-)

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Except that Lance would not be able to race.

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Damn, that's a cold ass honkey.

Something on the Internet was wrong??!
That's unpossible.

Anybody who wants to call me out on all the obviously stupid shit I've posted here, especially 2 or more years ago, had better get cracking!!
Busy, busy, busy!

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There isn't time enough in the day...or week...maybe month.

John

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Okay, legit razzing on the tardiness. I was just searching on her name for another reason and ran across the vitriolic thread. Felt a bit protective because Susan Williams is such an awesome coach and amazing athlete.

How about
Minor league
AAA
AA
American Legion

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Doing a search and bumping a 2-year old thread is creepy. Next time do what I do, mail her your ear and tell her you and her should be together.

Weirdo.

what's even more creepy is registering today then having all your posts be about her. Creepy Stalker. (yes both words are supposed to be in capital letters, it's a title)

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