Whats worse some guy who cheated or someone who is so offended they actually spend time talking about it, on a public forum, whats even more ridiculous is that you care if it should be a DQ or a DNF.

So you think we should let cheaters get away with it??

the guy who cheated.

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i'll go ahead and say the cheating is worse. if you disagree, what is it you're trying to accomplish by vilifying someone who wants to keep some integrity in the sport.

i'll also go ahead and agree that if you're morally bankrupt enough to cheat... you should be willing to accept whatever consequences come along with being found out. cheating is not, in fact, a victimless crime. "he only hurts himself"... oh yea, and the people he's passed who's overall and age group rankings are changed because of it. further, the promotion or non-punishment of cheating only encourages other would-be cheaters down that path.

YET.

It's really simple.

A DNF is for someone who doesn't complete the distance.
A DQ is for someone who does something false to complete the distance.

By falsely claiming that he "lost his chip", he should be DQ'd.

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Do the ST police need a warrant?

so he hurt the feelings of everyone behind him? 10:$% at kona so everyone in 90th place on back should be notified hey you are no longer 88th place you where 87th place, now go celebrate! who care's what cheaters do they have to take it to the grave. there are a lot more things in this world to get butt hurt about. And by the way cheating is worse of course, sorry forgot to put in pink.

Hell, it's entertaining and a good read.

I say we out the cheaters!!!

"Burn The Witch"
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indeed!

While this thread led me to the great "Finman" incident, I discovered this Slowtwitch video and laughed until tears were coming out of my eyes. This is brilliance at it's best. MUST SEE!

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No not at all. Just trying to convey that the OP might be allowing this incident to taint their overall experience. Sadly there are cheaters and injustice all over the place so enjoy the effort you put in and it is not worth their effort to ruminate about it.

RX has to live with himself - that is punishment enough without letting him ruin what is a huge accomplishment - a GREAT race in Hawaii and hopefully and awesome vacation.

"Imitation forum for slow people" Awesome.

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"You're seat is too high"!!! :-)

He also cut the bike, as he had a much slower swim than Joe and no one passed Joe on the entire bike course.

I've done IMFLA 3x and I can't even begin to imagine where you would cut the course??? There is that one out and back section, but don't you think someone would see that??

I am wondering if he lost his chip about the same time that Matty Reed got his stuff stolen. Hmmmmm

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see, that's the thing. YOU think that it's unheard of or impossible, but really it's not. I'm not saying whomever you all are talking about cheated, merely that to cheaters, it's not the same thing as it is to you.

Cheating is VERY easy. I'm currently reading books about hackers from the 70's thru today. In the 70's it was the phone company, now it's the internet and credit cards. You would be shocked at how much the hackers could get away with by simply asking for it.

This is something that I've thought about before.... with Kona spots becoming so scarce at individual races, and with soooo many athletes on the course, and bike routes that are multiple loop with several out and backs, and with Kona being so desirable...... I hope that WTC and race directors are thinking ahead to get ahead of the cheaters curve. A fair race that catches cheaters should be part of the entry fee IMO.

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the cheater is worse

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It seems obvious looking at Athlete Tracker and other information you provided who it is. If it's not this guy you might let us know that. Don't want to lynch some guy that just had a bad day.

MC

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where did this person qualify?

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What about the person he stole his Kona slot from?

(I am assuming he cheated at that race also)

I'm sick. I've got nothing to do. I looked the guy up. Shoot me (it might make me feel better...).

Cheaters should be outed. It isn't about the 'true' finishing place of the guy or gal who finished 154th or whatever. It's about ensuring that the sport has some integrity.

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