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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
 
japarker24 wrote:
white wizzard wrote:
mgalluzz wrote:


Everyone here realizes that you despise Mike for what happened. That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but move on now. Everyone else has.
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Who is Mike?


I hope that was supposed to be pink. If not, your reading comprehension really does suck.[/quote]
If you read his summary his reading comprehension does suck, this just confirms it.

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]
 
I think we should force white wizzard and mike to sit down together on a couch and watch the video of Frank Cardia.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [Francois] [ In reply to ]
 
Francois wrote:
I think we should force white wizzard and mike to sit down together on a couch and watch the video of Frank Cardia.



hahahahahahaha
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [white wizzard] [ In reply to ]
 
white wizzard wrote:


Any of you know and know any Ironmen who are or were in the marines?

I do. Its a big deal to them.


Funny, I haven't seen any of them, at least those I know to be Marines/former Marines on this board, keeping this going.

Which Marines asked you to speak for them?
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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [alligatorCAN] [ In reply to ]
 
  
i also shared the complex with this guy, certainly was not shy about mouthing off how his run could get him in the boston marathon, also how he hated drafters.
I dont go for any of the excuses offered, he knew what he was doing & nearly succeded.
Have checked his run splits in IM wales....one split missing, the same part as kona, perhaps he leapt over the mat!
Sorry but he is a cheating bastard.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [ironmanfive] [ In reply to ]
 
Seriously, you just signed up on ST to post this? You of course didn't mention that over half the field in Wales missed the same split. Nice try wizard.


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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [white wizzard] [ In reply to ]
 
white wizzard wrote:
Not so different eh.

If this guy was in a financial field and he was way behind and under huge stress you don't think he might fudge the numbers to make it OK and then it snowballs. By his own words that is exactly what he did in Kona. They are VERY similar.

How many of the regulars would even slightly CONSIDER what he did?

Take it easy!!!
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [csturgeon] [ In reply to ]
 
csturgeon wrote:
nickwisconsin wrote:
SpeedRacer1 wrote:
I have no clue who the guy is, where he lives, zero, nadda, nothing.


I think you protest too much.



http://www.speedracer.com/...ter.asp?s=speedRacer

http://www.speedracer.com/...aracter.asp?s=racerX


Hopefully I'm not the only one who picked up that reference when you first said it...sadly I feel I am

I think I'm too young to pick up on any speed racer references, but oddly enough, I now feel empty inside...

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [zoom] [ In reply to ]
 
I ran a marathon with a friend, he gives his medals to his kids. The marathon medal was kinda cool so I gave him mine so he could give each of them a medal

Styrrell
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [twinracer2] [ In reply to ]
 
twinracer2 wrote:
anyone else notice White Wizzard joined oct12th and has only posted on this thread? seems weird right?

i thought that too. him and triathlon1989 both. how awesome would this turned out to be a huge troll post.



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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [bmeer] [ In reply to ]
 
bmeer wrote:
twinracer2 wrote:
anyone else notice White Wizzard joined oct12th and has only posted on this thread? seems weird right?


i thought that too. him and triathlon1989 both. how awesome would this turned out to be a huge troll post.

it would negate ANY former and future troll posts! and perhaps go down in history as the G.O.A.T!

that's why i stopped posting on (my) page 2 in regards to the actual topic.

p.s. have you noticed people referencing 'pages' when you can set up your preferences to show how ever many posts on one page as you would like? so MY page 2 isn't the same are your page 2 (perhaps). it's just a small chuckle i get from time to time.

that is all.


Tim
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [alligatorCAN] [ In reply to ]
 
Interesting - this almost same thing happened at CDA with me. I calculated after the race that the guy must have run the middle 13 miles 1.11....didn't happen! I reported it and got "we don't have conclusive evidence" so nothing was done, although the guy didn't have a turn-a-round timing split. My theory is that it wasn't intentional, but that the guy went in a port-a-pot, came out and went the wrong way....but would you figure that out after the race?!


In Kona they had video cameras at the turn a rounds so they can go back and check. With the "value" of Kona spots being so high, I'll bet this actually happens more than you would think. Pretty easy to do if you scott the course and the system.

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [twinracer2] [ In reply to ]
 
twinracer2 wrote:
bmeer wrote:
twinracer2 wrote:
anyone else notice White Wizzard joined oct12th and has only posted on this thread? seems weird right?


i thought that too. him and triathlon1989 both. how awesome would this turned out to be a huge troll post.


it would negate ANY former and future troll posts! and perhaps go down in history as the G.O.A.T!

that's why i stopped posting on (my) page 2 in regards to the actual topic.

p.s. have you noticed people referencing 'pages' when you can set up your preferences to show how ever many posts on one page as you would like? so MY page 2 isn't the same are your page 2 (perhaps). it's just a small chuckle i get from time to time.

that is all.

I have to agree. I am kind of suspicious of this whole thing. That and the testimonial by the head referee? I didn't check his profile (and don't have time to sort through my 14 pages at work to find it) but that seemed a little out of sorts as well.

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [el_slice] [ In reply to ]
 
link to the official or what ever? i missed that one and i don't want to dig through my 7 pages of this thread.


Tim
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [twinracer2] [ In reply to ]
 
twinracer2 wrote:
link to the official or what ever? i missed that one and i don't want to dig through my 7 pages of this thread.

I did the work and found it... Guess it wasn't that hard:


sportstats (Cloudburst Summit) Post #236 of 339 (2205 views) Oct 12, 11 14:28 Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [triathlon1989] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

FYI I (head timer), the Race Director and Head referee have received a letter of apology from the person in question and arrangement are being made to have the finisher medal and t-shirt returned at this point. The results will be changed from a DNF to a DQ. Further action might be taken but this is a USAT rule that was broken.

For your reference, here is the rule that the person in question violated;

3.4 Race Conduct. All participants in USA Triathlon sanctioned events must adhere to the rules in this Section 3.4:
a. Entire Course. Participants must cover the prescribed course in its entirety. It is the participant's responsibility to know the course. Any violation of this section, even if no advantage is gained, shall result in a variable time penalty, unless the Head Referee in his sole discretion determines that (i) the violation was substantial and resulted in an unfair time advantage, or (ii) the violation constituted endangerment under Section 3.4(l). In the event the Head Referee makes such a determination, the penalty shall be disqualification.


He has been a member waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay longer than me and has a link to sportstats.ca. But he has posted less than 200 times since 2006. Does anybody know him?

And also, was a Canadian timing company really the company they used in Hawaii???

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [el_slice] [ In reply to ]
 
el_slice wrote:
And also, was a Canadian timing company really the company they used in Hawaii???

Sportstats has timed it several times (apparently):

http://sportstats.ca/...rd%20Ironman%20World

I'm competing against my current fitness level, and planning to kick my a**!
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [IamRobot] [ In reply to ]
 
IamRobot wrote:
el_slice wrote:
And also, was a Canadian timing company really the company they used in Hawaii???


Sportstats has timed it several times (apparently):http://sportstats.ca/...rd%20Ironman%20World[/quote[/url]]

Ok, thank you.

That was the information I was looking for but could not find.

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [el_slice] [ In reply to ]
 
It is and lots of the other IM races as well
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [bmeer] [ In reply to ]
 
I doubt it is a hoax since SportsStats has chimed in.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
 
japarker24 wrote:
I doubt it is a hoax since SportsStats has chimed in.

yeah, it looks like that was definitely the actual timing company. and with that response, i'll now believe this thread.

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [el_slice] [ In reply to ]
 
To the speculators out there….

As mentioned previously, I included the OP on my e-mail and letter to said head ref, timing director and race director at WTC.

I know the OP had probably long left this forum (she and her husband are actually very kind and caring people who were rightfully pissed off by my actions) but she can attest that my apology letter, my responses on here and lessons learned all actually occurred. I wish there was a way to relay to you all how hard the last few days have been (I completely deserved it) but I don’t want this to turn into a whining fest (this is for me to deal with). For those following this forum I hope that my learning has been apparent and once again I apologize to anyone I offended by my disgraceful actions.

For those of you new to this thread, I also mentioned that I am willing to accept and reply to any direct messages but it seems ST does not allow me to do so since I am a new user. If you want to speak to me please send me your e-mail in your direct message and I will respond. I will even go as far as to talk to you on the phone to prove my sincerity.

-Mike
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [triathlon1989] [ In reply to ]
 
triathlon1989 wrote:
For those of you new to this thread, I also mentioned that I am willing to accept and reply to any direct messages but it seems ST does not allow me to do so since I am a new user. If you want to speak to me please send me your e-mail in your direct message and I will respond. I will even go as far as to talk to you on the phone to prove my sincerity.

-Mike

Mike, this is my first post in this thread, and will be my only post in here.

I think I speak for the majority of the sane people out there when I say that none of the above actions should be necessary. You're young, you made a bad decision, you owned up to your mistake and now it's time to move on.

Enjoy some down time and get back to training seriously when you feel the desire.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [eganski] [ In reply to ]
 
eganski wrote:
Confused? This is the most famous section of the most famous race in our sport, muthafuka would need to be having a brain aneurysm.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [alligatorCAN] [ In reply to ]
 
What originally irked me about this whole sordid affair was the bragging. OK, maybe....just maybe in a delirium of exhaustion you cut the course to meet outside expectations. I would never do that but I can have a little empathy and try to understand how that might happen.




But if it did happen and after sanity returns and you truly felt remorseful you would not be "bragging to anyone within earshot" how you smoked the race. The excessive bragging is what pissed of the OP (and me) so she took it to the officials (and she was right to do so).


If you were really remorseful you would lay low, downplay the accomplishment, no brag. This is why I question this guy and his motives. But, hey, what do I know, I'm just a big jerk, but at least I am an honest jerk who won't cheat you.


Think about it.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [white wizzard] [ In reply to ]
 
White Wizard,

I know you have been one of my harshest critics and I am not trying to convince you that what I did was even remotely permissible, but I just want to clarify…

Not once did I brag about my race when my parents were not “within earshot.” My parents are by far my biggest supports and ones that I felt I was letting down the most. This bragging was indeed killing me on the inside, but at the time I was not ready to stare my parents in the face in front of all the people I met during the trip and tell them what had transpired. The process of coming clean happened that night in the comforts of my condo which enabled me to start my cascade of admittance which eventually reached WTC, my sponsors, my friends, this forum and others.

It is important to realize that I wanted to but couldn’t admit to something this intense out in public all at once. I needed to do this in steps, so my life didn’t crumble around me in an instance. Yes, it still did, but at least it was in a semi-digestible fashion that didn’t leave me broken in an alley somewhere. Instead I learned A TON and am re-evaluating my entire motivation and subsequent insolvent in triathlon

-Mike
 

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