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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [OC Ben] [ In reply to ]
 
Also, Nina Kraft intended to cheat for weeks, months, whatever. This guy made a spur of the moment bad decision on the day. Doesn't sound like he thought to himself before heading to Hawaii that the race would be a lot easier if he just skipped the Energy Lab.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [eganski] [ In reply to ]
 
eganski wrote:
apples and oranges.

People are allowed to make mistakes-once.
Phewwwww....... I am glad you feel that way Eggy, I pee'd in your wetsuit at Devilman while in the water.

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
 
I took a shit in that wetsuit.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [eganski] [ In reply to ]
 
Touché ;0)

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [eganski] [ In reply to ]
 
eganski wrote:
h2ofun.

He disappeared the same day as ank-Fray ay-day (don't want to risk the banhammer). You do the math.

No kidding? What a coincidence (as they are two people in the meat world).

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [sportstats] [ In reply to ]
 
Don't forget 3.3 (e).

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [triathlon1989] [ In reply to ]
 
As one of the persons on the board that is not Kona obsessed (not because I don't think it is an incredible accomplishment to even qualify--I'm just not a long course guy), I never bothered to read this thread until today.

Great job manning up to your mistake. I was a federal prosecutor for a number of year in a former lifetime and everyone that I encountered had made a mistake of some type. The people that impressed me the most were those who admitted their mistake, accepted it, learned from it, and moved forward. We have ALL made mistakes big and small in our lives. You are very young and sometimes its hard to get some perspective but eventually you will realize that even though you broke the rules and made a bad decision--it is not the end of the world. You didn't hurt anyone but yourself. Learn from it but don't let it define you as an athlete or a person.

Good luck in your future. You have my respect.

Phil
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [tri-n-climb] [ In reply to ]
 
tri-n-climb wrote:
I would rather go through life trusting most and believing in the good of others and getting burned for it from time to time then to never trust or forgive others.

Sometimes those that have the toughest time forgiving or trusting in others are those who have made the biggest mistakes and know personally the worst that can reside in some.

Man can you just give me a hug and hold me? It feels so good.... ;)
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [iJen0311] [ In reply to ]
 
 

elecengrman wrote:
Speaking of cheating...I check ebay every now and again to see if people are selling their finisher medals...check the description on this one.

http://www.ebay.com/...;hash=item20bd87ea2a
I almost bid but it's an ugly medal.

And it doesn't have bits of black plastic glued to it like that nice IMC medal, now that I would pay money for, if I didn't already have one.
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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [phog] [ In reply to ]
 
I quit caring about this shit on page 2.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [Goosedog] [ In reply to ]
 
This isn't a team sport. The results are correct. No one else is affected. He knows what he did and is dealing with it.

Why is it still an issue? The subject has been covered. The haters need to get off the cross and deal with their own lives.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [Goosedog] [ In reply to ]
 
Goosedog wrote:
I quit caring about this shit on page 2.

And that explains why you re-entered the thread and posted here on page 12?
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [Toby Tri] [ In reply to ]
 
Toby Tri wrote:
Goosedog wrote:
I quit caring about this shit on page 2.


And that explains why you re-entered the thread and posted here on page 12?

Enter Predictable Poster #1.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [kabacrew] [ In reply to ]
 
Haha, sometimes the health teacher in me comes out even when I'm not at school.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [Goosedog] [ In reply to ]
 
Goosedog wrote:
Toby Tri wrote:
Goosedog wrote:
I quit caring about this shit on page 2.


And that explains why you re-entered the thread and posted here on page 12?


Enter Predictable Poster #1.

Back again? Wow, you just can't stop caring about this thread can you?
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [Toby Tri] [ In reply to ]
 
Toby Tri wrote:
Goosedog wrote:
Toby Tri wrote:
Goosedog wrote:
I quit caring about this shit on page 2.


And that explains why you re-entered the thread and posted here on page 12?


Enter Predictable Poster #1.


Back again? Wow, you just can't stop caring about this thread can you?

Maybe someone will come along and explain it to you.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [white wizzard] [ In reply to ]
 
white wizzard wrote:
Not so different eh.
If this guy was in a financial field and he was way behind and under huge stress you don't think he might fudge the numbers to make it OK and then it snowballs. By his own words that is exactly what he did in Kona. They are VERY similar.
How many of the regulars would even slightly CONSIDER what he did?

I've considered a lot of things that I have never and would never do.

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [iJen0311] [ In reply to ]
 
iJen0311 wrote:
elecengrman wrote:
Speaking of cheating...I check ebay every now and again to see if people are selling their finisher medals...check the description on this one.

http://www.ebay.com/...;hash=item20bd87ea2a


I almost bid but it's an ugly medal.

why would anyone sell it? And why would anyone buy it?

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [eganski] [ In reply to ]
 
eganski wrote:
Confused? This is the most famous section of the most famous race in our sport, muthafuka would need to be having a brain aneurysm.

Brilliant. Fortunately on the day (2007) I was in reasonable shape at that stage, but I don't care how bad I might have felt, I wouldn't have missed the trip down and up the Energy lab for the world. Not for anything. I mean, that was the whole point wasn't it.

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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [Gandalf] [ In reply to ]
 
That's what offends me most about this whole thing-the guy got the door of the Louvre and thought "fudge it, I'm gonna turn around and go back."

Go in the friggin Energy Lab, it's the Energy Lab!!! WHO TURNS AROUND AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE ENERGY LAB?!?!?!?

Great, now I'm worked up and back to hating on this guy.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [Gandalf] [ In reply to ]
 
Gandalf wrote:
iJen0311 wrote:
elecengrman wrote:
Speaking of cheating...I check ebay every now and again to see if people are selling their finisher medals...check the description on this one.

http://www.ebay.com/...;hash=item20bd87ea2a


I almost bid but it's an ugly medal.


why would anyone sell it? And why would anyone buy it?

Maybe some lost it with their luggage on the flight home
Maybe some lost it on the drive home
Maybe some lost it at the post race food area
Maybe some lost it at their hotel
Maybe some lost it

Some people don't care about medals and selling it to someone that does is a good way to get rid of it


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Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [eganski] [ In reply to ]
 
Haha. I think for him, at that point, the decision to quit was the right one.

He realized that he was doing it for the wrong reasons, and he literally felt no desire to continue. He wasn't in it for himself anymore, so he just stopped. (At least that's what I've gathered from talking to him)

I've always told myself that if I get to the point where I don't enjoy it anymore and I'm not doing it for myself, than I'm going to stop. For me, I just hope that point doesn't happen in the middle of a race like it did for Mike.
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [Goosedog] [ In reply to ]
 
Goosedog wrote:
Toby Tri wrote:
Goosedog wrote:
Toby Tri wrote:
Goosedog wrote:
I quit caring about this shit on page 2.


And that explains why you re-entered the thread and posted here on page 12?


Enter Predictable Poster #1.


Back again? Wow, you just can't stop caring about this thread can you?


Maybe someone will come along and explain it to you.

Still?
 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [Gandalf] [ In reply to ]
 
Gandalf wrote:
white wizzard wrote:
Not so different eh.
If this guy was in a financial field and he was way behind and under huge stress you don't think he might fudge the numbers to make it OK and then it snowballs. By his own words that is exactly what he did in Kona. They are VERY similar.
How many of the regulars would even slightly CONSIDER what he did?


I've considered a lot of things that I have never and would never do.


 
Re: Should this be a DQ or DNF at Kona? [bluemonkeytri] [ In reply to ]
 
I did get a bike penality once in Kona. I swear I wasn't intentionally drafting.

There! Now have at me!
 

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