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Sharapova doping for 10 years
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http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/14922282/maria-sharapova-announces-flunked-drug-test-australian-open
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [aerobike] [ In reply to ]
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Title is misleading. The drug she has been taking for 10 years as prescribed by her doctor was only added to the banned list in January.
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [jpwiki] [ In reply to ]
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jpwiki wrote:
Title is misleading. The drug she has been taking for 10 years as prescribed by her doctor was only added to the banned list in January.

Please don't let facts get in the way of the doping moralists.....

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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [jpwiki] [ In reply to ]
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I do like how she took full responsibility for it in admitting that it was up to her to see whether it had been added to the banned substance list. Usually you hear athletes saying "I don't know how this could have happened" or "I didn't realize what I was taking"



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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [aerobike] [ In reply to ]
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Serena would not have been so gracious

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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [jpwiki] [ In reply to ]
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jpwiki wrote:
Title is misleading. The drug she has been taking for 10 years as prescribed by her doctor was only added to the banned list in January.

This. Change the title.
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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It clearly wasn't intentional "doping". Her results in January clearly weren't aided by her "doping". This is simply a case of her prescribed drugs having 2 names, and a bit of negligence on her behalf of not checking the updated list
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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There are some indications that lots of endurance athletes with doctors pushing all the legal boundaries have been using this for a long time. I would think that when the news that it would be added to the banned list came out, it would have caught just about everyone's attention in those circles, but it seems Sharapova was not paying attention. I do like how she takes responsibility, but I am not sure I buy the argument that she was taking it because she was prescribed it because she was getting sick a lot and had low magnesium levels. Since it was not illegal, why not just come out and say she was taking it for a performance benefit? It's typically prescribed for angina and myocardial infarction which she is not claiming she suffered from.

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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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If something is legal, what business do any of us have why they are taking it?

Now, here again, a professional missing a change? What type of "experts" does folks have around them?

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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [aerobike] [ In reply to ]
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How can you get caught in tennis is a bigger question.
The testing in tennis is a joke.

By the way, the substance is known as a PED.
Last edited by: Halvard: Mar 7, 16 13:25
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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Halvard wrote:
How can you get caught in tennis is a bigger question.
The testing in tennis is a joke.

Tennis players get tested??
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
Serena would not have been so gracious

You trying to say Sarena is using something?



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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
Serena would not have been so gracious

I read the subject line and thought to myself, "How many posts until someone tries to turn a thread on Sharapova into an opportunity to editorialize on a Williams sister?"

Answer: 5
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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A number of other athletes have tested positive for the drug since Jan. 1: Abeba Aregawi (Ethiopian born, Swedish nationality, 1500 world champion) Eduard Vorganov (Russian cyclist) EndeShaw Negesse (Ethiopian marathoner) Ekaterina Bobrova (Russian ice dancer) Olga Abramova (Ukranian biathlete).

who knew so many top aerobic athletes had cardiovascular problems!

on the bright side, only 1 of them is a cyclist so it shows other sports do actually do some testing, even tennis! conspiracy theorists could however point out that they're targeting an eastern europe drug, not catching any of the "good guys" from the west ;)

only reason i see to believe that any of these people have genuine need for the drug is that if you they being dodgy you'd expect they would monitor the annual WADA list changes if they had half a brain (or a dodgy doctor with half a brain, you'd have to be a complete idiot to take drugs from a doctor who has less than half a brain). of course there is another explanation for this situation...

my opinion on this is the same as for chris froome and his drugs for asthma etc: even if you have a genuine medical condition you shouldn't be taking drugs with a notable performance enhancing effect and competing. froome may have asthma which i don't, such is the luck of genetics etc. i happen not to have been blessed with the engine he has, am i allowed to take drugs to correct that?
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [jpwiki] [ In reply to ]
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Might be, but it's pretty suspicious that she's taking a drug that's prescribed to heart failure patients which also happens to be pretty popular with other busted endurance athletes: https://jakegshelley.wordpress.com/...elodoniummildronate/
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [jpwiki] [ In reply to ]
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jpwiki wrote:
It clearly wasn't intentional "doping". Her results in January clearly weren't aided by her "doping". This is simply a case of her prescribed drugs having 2 names, and a bit of negligence on her behalf of not checking the updated list

I don't buy her schtick for one second. She doped. Not "doped." Doped.
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [jpwiki] [ In reply to ]
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jpwiki wrote:
It clearly wasn't intentional "doping". Her results in January clearly weren't aided by her "doping". This is simply a case of her prescribed drugs having 2 names, and a bit of negligence on her behalf of not checking the updated list


It was intentional though, the drug was added to the banned substance list because people were abusing it and gaining a competitive advantage.
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [pk1] [ In reply to ]
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pk1 wrote:
my opinion on this is the same as for chris froome and his drugs for asthma etc: even if you have a genuine medical condition you shouldn't be taking drugs with a notable performance enhancing effect and competing. froome may have asthma which i don't, such is the luck of genetics etc

Lots of logical fail here....asthma drugs don't provide any performance benefit. If you don't have asthma, they don't do anything for you. But since asthma drugs don't require a TUE, you are free to use them just as Froome does.

As for the "genetics" comment, let's look at a logical extension of that logic....if your "genetics" don't include perfect vision and you require glasses to see correctly, should you be allowed to use glasses in a race? Your logic says "Sorry, no dice...such is the luck of genetics."

Sounds kinda dumb, doesn't it?

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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [pk1] [ In reply to ]
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pk1 wrote:
am i allowed to take drugs to correct that?

No you're not allowed to that.

And the implied equivalence to treating asthma is spurious.
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [pk1] [ In reply to ]
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pk1 wrote:
if they had half a brain (or a dodgy doctor with half a brain, you'd have to be a complete idiot to take drugs from a doctor who has less than half a brain)



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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
RandMart wrote:
Serena would not have been so gracious


I read the subject line and thought to myself, "How many posts until someone tries to turn a thread on Sharapova into an opportunity to editorialize on a Williams sister?"

Answer: 5

Doping or not, you must admit Serena is notoriously cranky

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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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Halvard wrote:
How can you get caught in tennis is a bigger question.
The testing in tennis is a joke.

By the way, the substance is known as a PED.

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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [tom1111] [ In reply to ]
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tom1111 wrote:

It was intentional though, the drug was added to the banned substance list because people were abusing it and gaining a competitive advantage.

I keep wondering how long before caffeine is officially categorized as a PED. Amateur and professional athletes talk openly about it being a PED. Hell it is even marketed as one by a professional runner: http://getrungum.com/. I'm pretty sure that "maximize your performance" is the same as saying "enhance your performance".

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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [aerobike] [ In reply to ]
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Whatever the performance benefits and whatever her reasons where for taking Melodium in the past, she's only been doping for two months.
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Re: Sharapova doping for 10 years [jpwiki] [ In reply to ]
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jpwiki wrote:
It clearly wasn't intentional "doping". Her results in January clearly weren't aided by her "doping". This is simply a case of her prescribed drugs having 2 names, and a bit of negligence on her behalf of not checking the updated list

The fact that she did poorly is not proof of anything. Many pro athletes are pushing all kinds of doping boundaries today through the off-label use of certain drugs. When WADA clues into it and puts the drugs on the list tomorrow, I will not feel sorry for athletes who've chosen this course of action.

How many 30 year-old people do you know to be on Mildronate because there's a history of heart trouble in the family?

Can any cardiologists out there tell us how frequent the use of similar drugs are for non heart patients who have a family history of cardiac trouble?

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