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Sex to get out of Doping
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I wonder how many cyclists will use this one in the future to get a "no-fault" finding for doping...
https://nypost.com/...934448090.1558407644
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [M~] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [M~] [ In reply to ]
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M~ wrote:
I wonder how many cyclists will use this one in the future to get a "no-fault" finding for doping...
https://nypost.com/...934448090.1558407644

So many questions. How do you prove the boyfriend was not using banned substances. Seems like an impossible task. Is the onus on the athlete to prove that they did? How do you do that after the fact. Just say so? Doesn't seem like much of a plan.

Does this work for females only? Can a guy get infinitely small amount of banned substance through cervix mucous? How do you prove you were having sex?

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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [spockwaslen] [ In reply to ]
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Proof must be through Strava πŸ˜‚
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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plant_based wrote:
zero fuchs given

one of the best last names ever. Especially for this story
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [M~] [ In reply to ]
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Lol at the name and subject of the article.
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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plant_based wrote:
zero fuchs given

That's excellent!
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [spockwaslen] [ In reply to ]
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spockwaslen wrote:
Does this work for females only? Can a guy get infinitely small amount of banned substance through cervix mucous? How do you prove you were having sex?

Let me see if I can talk my girlfriend into an experiment ;)
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [offpiste.reese] [ In reply to ]
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Brings on so many options

Fuch'd over backwards.
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [BobAjobb] [ In reply to ]
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So I guess she ingested something she shouldn't have.
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [tedk] [ In reply to ]
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tedk wrote:
So I guess she ingested something she shouldn't have.

<Checks dictionary definition of "ingest">

Yup...she did.
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [tedk] [ In reply to ]
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Surely you jest

They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [M~] [ In reply to ]
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Just putting it out there any female athletes wanting to run a PED program just tell me what I need to take and I'm available for sex ;)
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [M~] [ In reply to ]
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So, this could work for gay guys as well.
That's one way of coming out I suppose.

The possible combinations are interesting.
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [michael Hatch] [ In reply to ]
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I'm afraid to ask how straight guys can get their dope in the bedroom.

I guess it depends on how deep down the rabbit hole they wanna go.

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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [Shambolic] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [uw234] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [M~] [ In reply to ]
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Seriously, how juiced does a guy have to be to secrete enough to have a partner ingest enough to test positive?
No mention of the 2 things she tested positive for means we can't speculate enough.
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [Rumpled] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [M~] [ In reply to ]
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After thinking on this over the weekend, it's a disturbing erosion of the WADA doctrine of absolute responsibility for substances entering the body.

I could understand if she was a recreational athlete. Asking recreational athlete to vet their sex partners might be a bit much. But asking an elite athlete to not associate with clearly doping people shouldn't be too much to ask.

My rationale is taking at face value that she ingested the substances unknowingly through sex..lying about that would be a whole other deal. And also based on the partner doping given that the list of substances seems inconsistent with medical treatment in my lay interpretation. GW1516 is not FDA-approved for any purpose.

It'd be rough if the partner was lying to her, and she had no idea he was doping. But still.
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [Rumpled] [ In reply to ]
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Rumpled wrote:
Seriously, how juiced does a guy have to be to secrete enough to have a partner ingest enough to test positive?
No mention of the 2 things she tested positive for means we can't speculate enough.

Probably not very. Based on Travis T’s quote it sounds like the result was extremely low. There needs to be some rationalization of limits when the LOD is many orders of magnitude less than what is needed for performance gains.
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [mbeaugard] [ In reply to ]
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mbeaugard wrote:
There needs to be some rationalization of limits when the LOD is many orders of magnitude less than what is needed for performance gains.


There is no way to determine what is needed for performance gains for GW1516 (one of the substances detected). Because it would be illegal to test on people.

There's no reason to ever have that stuff in your body.


Edit: I'm somewhat mystified by this line in the USADA statement, "USADA determined that Fuchs’ male partner was using therapeutic doses of letrozole and GW1516."

Emphasis mine. Per USADA's own web site on the subject, "In addition to being prohibited at all times under the WADA Prohibited List, GW1516 is not legally permitted in any medications, supplements, or foods."
Last edited by: trail: Jun 15, 20 15:41
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [M~] [ In reply to ]
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This story is too much to swallow.
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [ajthomas] [ In reply to ]
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That's what she (should have) said.
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Re: Sex to get out of Doping [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Yep how did he get something illegal for humans in his system? is all bullshit, and worst of all, USADA are enablers here. Dodgy as. I bet if she was a 3rd rate athlete, not a medal hope she would have been guilty.
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