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Richard Murray - 28:04 10k
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Not bad for a Triathlete on his own.

I know, the course wasn't officially measured. But it is still impressive.

10k - 30:48 / half - 1:06:40
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [ToBeasy] [ In reply to ]
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Saw that. Great effort! Just wait for the "he paced behind a bike and wore cheater shoes" comments.

He also went like 4:0x in the mile off of some hard bike intervals in a previous video. Very impressive running.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [FuzzyRunner] [ In reply to ]
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So shoe corrected 30 min?
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [ToBeasy] [ In reply to ]
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was this a road 10km or on the track? I assume the former?
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Road


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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [ToBeasy] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not saying he can't do it, but until he runs something relevant on a track I'll have my reservations.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [ToBeasy] [ In reply to ]
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And just for the heck of it...


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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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synthetic wrote:
So shoe corrected 30 min?

Will you ever outgrow being a troll about Nikes on every thread you see them?
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [ToBeasy] [ In reply to ]
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Yup, still impressive! Good on him.

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Lansing Triathlon Team
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [BigBoyND] [ In reply to ]
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BigBoyND wrote:
synthetic wrote:
So shoe corrected 30 min?


Will you ever outgrow being a troll about Nikes on every thread you see them?

no different from a downhill marathon PR
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
was this a road 10km or on the track? I assume the former?

Its road. Would prefer to see it on a track where he has to turn.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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synthetic wrote:
BigBoyND wrote:
synthetic wrote:
So shoe corrected 30 min?


Will you ever outgrow being a troll about Nikes on every thread you see them?

no different from a downhill marathon PR

It is different. Shoes can't return more energy than the runner puts in. They're just less shite than old shoes by turning less energy into heat (waste). Running downhill reduces the energy required to move mass from point A to B by using an externally stored energy source, gravity/potential energy. The equation isn't the same at all.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [LifeTri] [ In reply to ]
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LifeTri wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
was this a road 10km or on the track? I assume the former?


Its road. Would prefer to see it on a track where he has to turn.

Road loop course or point to point? Road loop course is legit.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [BigBoyND] [ In reply to ]
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BigBoyND wrote:
synthetic wrote:
BigBoyND wrote:
synthetic wrote:
So shoe corrected 30 min?


Will you ever outgrow being a troll about Nikes on every thread you see them?

no different from a downhill marathon PR

It is different. Shoes can't return more energy than the runner puts in. They're just less shite than old shoes by turning less energy into heat (waste). Running downhill reduces the energy required to move mass from point A to B by using an externally stored energy source, gravity/potential energy. The equation isn't the same at all.

Yet multitudes of records broken with the introduction of this tech...

I like to point out, how the Kristian blumfelt abused the shoes setting "PR"s that when he showed up to a real track meet he left disappointed... and has been under the radar for past few weeks...
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Road loop with the final maybe .1k off the loop to finish. I think it's probably a pretty legit distance wise but not perfect. His wife/girlfriend (Rachel Klamer) mentioned that they measured the distance a few times to get it right.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [DinoBoss] [ In reply to ]
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DinoBoss wrote:
I'm not saying he can't do it, but until he runs something relevant on a track I'll have my reservations.

Really?
Pancake flat course and multiple people timing and measuring and we still question legitimacy?

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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [FuzzyRunner] [ In reply to ]
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FuzzyRunner wrote:
Road loop with the final maybe .1k off the loop to finish. I think it's probably a pretty legit distance wise but not perfect. His wife/girlfriend (Rachel Klamer) mentioned that they measured the distance a few times to get it right.

That sounds like there was no elevation drop and equal headwind tailwind. So seems pretty legit to call it a PB. What are athletes supposed to do now anyway given that there are no races, you kind of have to make up your own race and challenge yourself
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [FuzzyRunner] [ In reply to ]
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FuzzyRunner wrote:
Road loop with the final maybe .1k off the loop to finish. I think it's probably a pretty legit distance wise but not perfect. His wife/girlfriend (Rachel Klamer) mentioned that they measured the distance a few times to get it right.

But why wouldn't he just do this on a track? If you're going to run a 28:00 10K to test yourself and see what you're capable of and you're going to do it outside of an actual race, why would you not simply hit a track 25 times so you yourself know as well as all the internet naysayers know, that you ran a legit 10K.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [kny] [ In reply to ]
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kny wrote:
FuzzyRunner wrote:
Road loop with the final maybe .1k off the loop to finish. I think it's probably a pretty legit distance wise but not perfect. His wife/girlfriend (Rachel Klamer) mentioned that they measured the distance a few times to get it right.


But why wouldn't he just do this on a track? If you're going to run a 28:00 10K to test yourself and see what you're capable of and you're going to do it outside of an actual race, why would you not simply hit a track 25 times so you yourself know as well as all the internet naysayers know, that you ran a legit 10K.

He was on Greg Bennett’s podcast recently. Said he doesn’t like running on the track because of all the turns.

Let food be thy medicine...
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [kny] [ In reply to ]
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kny wrote:
FuzzyRunner wrote:
Road loop with the final maybe .1k off the loop to finish. I think it's probably a pretty legit distance wise but not perfect. His wife/girlfriend (Rachel Klamer) mentioned that they measured the distance a few times to get it right.


But why wouldn't he just do this on a track? If you're going to run a 28:00 10K to test yourself and see what you're capable of and you're going to do it outside of an actual race, why would you not simply hit a track 25 times so you yourself know as well as all the internet naysayers know, that you ran a legit 10K.

He knows there's people out there that will doubt it. Really, who cares...the internet cannot be pleased with anything at this point lol

Like I tell my kids - the road to unhappiness is down the path of trying to please people online that don't give a crap about you either way.

DFRU - Detta Family Racing Unit...the kids like it and we all get out and after it...gotta keep the fam involved!
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I think they key phrase there is "challenge yourself". He is finished his last race and wanted to do one more thing before calling it a season. He didn't do any tailored training for this so its just something to do for himself. I think there are some people that take these efforts a little to seriously. He's running each mile faster than I can run a single all out mile so I just enjoy the show haha.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [kny] [ In reply to ]
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Yea I'd think that he'd hit the track for this type of effort. I can understand not doing your workouts on the track if you don't like running on one but for the actual effort I would have thought he would have chosen a track.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [FuzzyRunner] [ In reply to ]
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28:04 is not a "challenge yourself" performance. That is a statement performance. 28:04 is 0:04 off the South Africa road 10K record. 28:04 is 0:28 faster than Alistair Brownlee ran at Payton Jordan Invitational, which I believe is the fastest open 10k ever run by a triathlete. If you're going to make a statement make it beyond reproach. But, no matter. That is damn damn fast no matter what, how, when, or who.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [kny] [ In reply to ]
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Kudos to RD.It all looks legit, have a look at his Strava account

https://www.strava.com/activities/4235617078

He ran 2:49 km’s consistently.

One of the mains reason for running this on the road might be the difference in how much stress the track places on the legs (I.e., running 25 laps of curves) vs the road; especially if one does not train on the track regularly for this type of effort.
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Re: Richard Murray - 28:04 10k [kny] [ In reply to ]
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kny wrote:
28:04 is not a "challenge yourself" performance. That is a statement performance. 28:04 is 0:04 off the South Africa road 10K record. 28:04 is 0:28 faster than Alistair Brownlee ran at Payton Jordan Invitational, which I believe is the fastest open 10k ever run by a triathlete. If you're going to make a statement make it beyond reproach. But, no matter. That is damn damn fast no matter what, how, when, or who.

The angle of challenge yourself would be to go out put down a solid 10km performance on whatever course and maybe at most discuss it with some buddies alonng the lines of, "man I was flying, I wish I had an official race to get this performance registered....I have awesome fitness but have nothing official to show for it". I suppose what he did was along the lines, of "I challenged myself and pulled off something along the lines of finshing 175m ahead of Alistair virtually". For example what Lionel did was straight up, "I challenge myself to see where I stack up with pro cyclists on their turf...its out there and 1000% legit".
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