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Rheed, I love how you're describing your position in the past: "super comfy...without any pain...fit like a glove". I'd like you to get into that same spot for the same feeling on the SLX and to do it with a Pad Y of 683, and a Pad X 476.... A medium can work but... it would require the long stem (which does not come stock in the USA) and high spacer + - you're too close to the extreme of that bike. A large would be better and you'd set that up with....short stem, mid spacer, medium extension - right in the sweet spot of this bike and, if you're in the USA, it'll come out of the box almost exactly as you'll want it. Ian Wow, thanks for the input, now Im actually confused because I was almost sure the size was correct. Im starting to think my fit measurements werent right on the CF fit, because the measured stack and reach of the frame are 5-10mm more than the official ones, and I remember pads were in the middle reach on the CF.
I have used another TT bike for the past year ( A ceepo katana in size L, which felt quite good as well, I just didnt like the bike itself for other reasons ) and checking the same data I had for that bike fitting because is more recent
Also I measured incorrectly the inseam, its 85 sorry
Saddle height 770
Handlebar reach 505
Armpad reach 433
Armpad stack from BB 680
Armpad reach from BB 440
Frame stack was 540, on the CF SLX is 489, but on the other bike it counted until the handlebars, and I would need to add extra 4cm of the rise bar, which would be 530 on the canyon. Frame reach was 420 and the canyon 438, which makes it longer. In terms of armpad stack I actually removed 2cm weeks after the fitting because I felt better, so it would be 660. Counting this, both stack/reach for armpads fall more or less in the middle of the range of what the geometry says ( I dont know if the geometry counts as default short stem, I guess so? ). Also with size L the saddle height is not even in the range. Should I be comparing two different bikes? I know that im much more flexible now as the Canyon was my first TT bike but does it make a difference? Im on EU and there was stock this week, I ordered one and while going through the config process they told me M should be my size given the measures I gave to them, that I fell almost in the middle of everything :'(
Again, thanks a lot for the help!
Rheed,
I'm happy to work through this with you and I'll ask for one favor to avoid confusion: let's refer to the pads in terms of Pad Y and Pad X and the top of the head tube on the frame as Stack and Reach. It's safer, clearer that way.
Just to touch on a few things:
- Saddle height of 780 will be achievable on the SLX size Large but you won't be able to utilize the Canyon seat post mounted water bottle cage (one of the mounting screws will hidden in the frame). Even the new seat height you've offered from the other bike (770) will work.
- The Pad Y of your 2021 CF s 680 and the Pad Y of the Ceepo is 683 - so that's so close we can call them the same
- The Pad X of your 2021 CF is 476 and the Pad X of the Ceepo is 433 - 43mm in reach is big and makes me think that something has gone awry in the measuring somewhere or perhaps changes took place that caused what's written down to be different from where you actually rode/ride those bikes - or, at least, one of those bikes.
Let's say you came to this thread and said "I've never owned a tri bike. Want to buy an SLX. I'm 182cm tall and have an 88cm inseam". I would think your Pad Y would be ~660 and your Pad X near to 475. And those are numbers that are right in your range, numbers you've used. You could still fit on the Large SLX (short stem, low spacer) and you could fit on a Medium (long stem, mid spacer).
You can do a size Medium SLX at 680 or 683 (and the Pad Y of 476) but you have to have the long stem and you'll need the high spacer.
You're in the EU and that makes a lot difference in my advice. I think you're able to specify what front end you want on the bike when you order it (that's not currently something that those in the USA can do). Because of that I'd get the Medium SLX with the long stem. And then I'd make sure that you use two things that will make or break your position: 1) a short crank, probably a 160mm would be best but if 165mm is the shortest you can go okay. and 2) a saddle that allows you to ride on the front half of it comfortably. Those two things will likely allow you to go lower and the bike will come with all the parts necessary to lower the Pad Y incrementally as you discover a new position that is faster while still being... "super comfy...without any pain...fit like a glove".
Ian
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