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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [gary p] [ In reply to ]
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Probably the cheapest option in that case might be to place a regular bottle (Trohans aero 20/30;Profile....) there and tape a plastic sheet to it for a nice fairing to the steerer tube.
This can’t be called cheating anymore since the PD aeria ultimate bottle....cause it’s a none structural part, let’s call it fairing, right there.
The plus From the aero30 over the ultimate bottle from my POV is the weight is place a little lower and closer to the steerer.

-shoki
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [shoki] [ In reply to ]
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shoki wrote:
This can’t be called cheating anymore since the PD aeria ultimate bottle....cause it’s a none structural part, let’s call it fairing, right there.

I'm not confident in your interpretation.
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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DFW_Tri wrote:
shoki wrote:
This can’t be called cheating anymore since the PD aeria ultimate bottle....cause it’s a none structural part, let’s call it fairing, right there.

I'm not confident in your interpretation.

I mean, Gary p wants a none expensive aero option for the front
So why not using something like I said and tape the gap with some plastic or whatever to get the same result
I know to put something just for fairing is not legal BUT I don’t see any difference in this factory made fairing, got nothing structural as far as I see it in the pictures.

-shoki
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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My bottle should arrive this week to test on a Neil Pryde 48cm, 100 Aeria Stem and TRP 860 brake.

Pretty much expecting it not to fit now

1) Suspect it would need 5mm more stack clearance from front tyre
2) bottle would found 860 brake with cable stop fit fitted. Might fit with 860 cover removed.

I've an Omega-X to solve 2).

A small shallower bottle with 1 cm less stack for 48 and 51 would mean they'll have coverage across pretty much every frame size. As the NP is about as low you can get without going to 650b wheels
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [emerywd] [ In reply to ]
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emerywd wrote:

A small shallower bottle with 1 cm less stack for 48 and 51 would mean they'll have coverage across pretty much every frame size. As the NP is about as low you can get without going to 650b wheels

Unfortunately that's not going to happen, they're so expensive to make that multiple sizes are not realistic.


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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Ive already been googling 'plastic hot knife' in anticipation of that!
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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I tried it on my Dimond but the magnetic cover of the Superfork will be in the way.
Last edited by: campled: Jan 18, 18 0:11
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [campled] [ In reply to ]
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Do you still need the brake cover if you have the AU system though?
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [campled] [ In reply to ]
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campled wrote:
I tried it on my Dimond but the magnetic cover of the Superfork will be in the way.


70 or 100mm stem. Yeah, no way it works with the 70mm stem but fits fine on the 100mm.







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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [imswimmer328] [ In reply to ]
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Do you still need the brake cover if you have the AU system though?

Yes, see my pics.

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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Bitchin' Camaro

The GMAN wrote:
campled wrote:
I tried it on my Dimond but the magnetic cover of the Superfork will be in the way.


70 or 100mm stem. Yeah, no way it works with the 70mm stem but fits fine on the 100mm.






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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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Haha. When I installed it the first thing I thought of was the Bullet from Mario Kart.



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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, I see now. Thx. Nice looking setup!
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [campled] [ In reply to ]
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I am using an ENVE stem and was hoping I can retrofit the bottle since it has a similar shape.
However it doesn't.
Now trying to order the Aeria 100mm stem but out of stock all over.


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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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I have the 70mm stem for sale in the Classifieds if anyone is interested. Still brand new and never used.

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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Do you know if there are any plans by PD to add tilt adjustability to the older Aeria Aerobar?
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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There is something on the way for later this year.


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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Do you know if this bottle set up would work with a p5-6 with the beard extending out beyond headtube or could it fit if you remove beard? Or maybe the gusset can essentially be a beard replacement?

Also does the bottle only need the Aeria stem for compatibility or does it also need to Ultimate Aeria Aerobar? I have regular carbon Aeria so if I bought the ultimate stem, would the bottle fit with that set up?
Last edited by: DFW_Tri: Jan 27, 18 4:48
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [campled] [ In reply to ]
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is that Enve stem not "slammable"?

campled wrote:
I am using an ENVE stem and was hoping I can retrofit the bottle since it has a similar shape.
However it doesn't.
Now trying to order the Aeria 100mm stem but out of stock all over.


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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [ericMPro] [ In reply to ]
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Will need to cut off the top of the brake cover if i slam the Enve stem.
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Re: Profile Design Aeria Ultimate aerobar and stem [snny] [ In reply to ]
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Snny,

Any issues with the brakes with how the front cable is bent? I have an Ordu OMP as well and considering this setup although my one concern is the brake and also getting my stack and reach right.
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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [campled] [ In reply to ]
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it won't hit your headtube?

thanks

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Will need to cut off the top of the brake cover if i slam the Enve stem.

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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Beard only works with Aduro bar/stem. Bottle only works with AU stem, so you can't have both. Not that you need both as shown below.
Astrid hadn't cut the gusset to match her head tube cleanly, she just has the brake covers, no beard.



You don't need the AU bar, just the stem. Which fits fine with original Aeria.


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Re: Choice between the new ENVE SES Aero TT system or the Profile Design Aeria Ultimate. Which would you choose? [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you for the reply. I plan to try this set up.
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Re: Profile Design Aeria Ultimate aerobar and stem [kart17] [ In reply to ]
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kart17 wrote:
I have an Ordu OMP as well and considering this setup although my one concern is the brake and also getting my stack and reach right.

What size is your Ordu and what is your pad XYZ (to rear centre of pads, including cushion)?


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