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They should set these guys up across the street from BLM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4xLolOI9Po

#hillbillylivesmatter

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I assume that this is a "no business as usual" approach to protests. "You want to ignore the problems we're facing and lead your normal life? Too bad."
It's an approach that has its purposes, I just think it's ill fitted for this one.

Looks like St. Paul is going to do what it takes to prevent any disruption to the marathon itself:

http://www.mprnews.org/.../2015/09/30/marathon

Pretty clear stance - Race organizers sent an email to participants encouraging them all to come out and enjoy the day.

I hope it all goes off with out a hitch.

Bob - what problems are we facing? The media continually racially charging this country? Racism only exists because the media continues to bring it up as an 'issue'. I know that there are some select individuals that believe the color of your skin makes a difference, but honestly, I do not see that in my local community and I do not see it as a social justice issue - at this point in our society.

They showed up locally (McKinney, TX) when the pool party event took place over the summer. Having been at the rally, those speaking on behalf of BLM were BUSED into town, not locals. All media coverage that showed any tension was due to a group of people trying to make more out of what was going on than there was. The locals were all talking - peacefully. The conversations went about like this:

"The cop went too far."
"Yes, I agree. But she had multiple opportunities to walk away, yet continued to show disrespect."
"Yeah, I saw that, too. Maybe the parents should have been paying closer attention to what their child was doing."
"I agree."

At the end of the event, they passed out a jug asking for money. The entire movement is about creating a problem when one was not there to begin with. And to make money. For the media, they are whores who only want ratings and will run with any slant they can to make it more entertaining.

So I have to ask, in all seriousness, what are the problems you see us facing?

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i'd start with people like you who choose to disregard the existence of racism, and who ask anyone fighting against racism to stop.
you've had plenty of time to see racism in action, and you've chosen not to see it. i don't think anything i say on this thread is going to change that.
I will, however, point out how closely your post resembles the letter from 8 Alabama clergymen from April 1963.
It's here, if you want to read it - http://dsapresents.org/...eKingBirmingham1.pdf

Then you can read MLK's response, it's his Letter from Birmingham Jail.

Maybe Bob and JT and Power and the other BLM sympathizers here can also address how they feel about the arrest of Latausha Nedd. Latausha is the Georgia based BLM member who recently went on You Tube brandishing an automatic pistol along with a machete promoting how its "open season' on the police and all the "crackers". Pretty pathetic and just another example of why this anti-police/anti-white "organization" should not be supported.

whelps, i'm surly glad we have cell phone cameras. otherwise you would have supported that (i believe) charleston officer that shot a man in the back and placed a taser in his hands, lying about the whole situation.

look, it's one single incident, but black people have been crying about this stuff for YEARS. perhaps, just perhaps, there is some truth behind it?



BOOM. preach man, preach. but seriously. do you expect to change the mind of a racists?

i'm not black, but one of my best friends is. he's a well educated man, wouldn't hurt a fly. goes to church every friday and saturday. has a great family. when we were in college and then grad school together he was pulled over at least 25 times. you're not going to believe this, but it was because he was black.

when you are not speeding, not breaking any rules of the road and have no criminal offenses or prior driving offenses and you are pulled over that many times, it is called racial profiling/racism. i once asked him why the hell he stopped at stop signs for 4 whole seconds (he counted out loud) and he said it was because he doesn't want to be pulled over and arrested. yeap, ARRESTED. this man was once arrested by a cop because the cop said he tried to crash his car into the cruiser. (story: he was parked at stop and shop and the cop waived him out, he pulled out and left stop and shop, cop pulled him over, said he tried to crash into his car and JAILED him for the night).

no one expects white people to UNDERSTAND, you never will. you'll never have any idea what it is like to live as a colored person (especially black) in this country. all they are asking is that you EMPATHIZE with their situation and maybe, just maybe realize that we are all in this together and help out.

i hear a lot of bitching on here about black on black crime, all lives matter. that shit just shows how god damn ignorant you really are to things in the world.

imagine VW's emission issues involved their petrol and diesel cars and the disel car owners were protesting how they are getting screwed. would you come along and say hey, shut up, we're all getting screwed? that's a shitty example, but that's how stupid you sound. i can use such a shitty example to demonstrate how ridiculous you sound.

the reality is very simple, black people are murdered at an incredibly high rate (for all you stat heads, look it up) compared to whites. that is of concern for BLACK people. yes, the movement is in regard of police violence, but it is particular to police violence against people who are black. how god damn hard is that to understand. how fucking racist/ignorant/prejudice do you have to be?

shouldn't you people be on the IMMD board saying that ALL races matter because those folks doing IMMD clearly don't give a fuck about any other racers, or other athletes in the region, right? no, it's not that they don't care about those races, it's that those races don't affect them.

white privilege is one of the greatest gifts you can be born with and to quote the great benjamin parker (spider mans uncle), "with great power comes great responsibility". (that was my effort of lightening the mood a little).

john

p.s.- though i do not support the actions of BLM at the TCM i can understand their cause/reason to do it and empathize with them.

removed most of what i'd written before, since it's too far away from the topic.
if you don't see the racism that exists in American society, it's because you're choosing to not see it. nothing i write on this thread will change that.

I'm pretty sir for every such case, I can find a video or incident of a coo actually killing an unarmed black man.

You can decide for yourself which is worse.

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ahhchon,

The more pertinent question on this thread remains to be answered: Do you SERIOUSLY believe that BLM should block this Marathon and prevent 10,000 runners from running the last 1.2 miles? If you do, then you might as well tell New York City's BLM chapter to block NY's West Village Halloween Gay Parade.

No offense to the NY LGBT chapter.

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If you can find anything that I have posted that implies I endorse violence against police officers, please provide a link. What you seem to be missing is the fact that I am not trying to play tit-for-tat, nor endorsing what some extreme members of BLM may be chanting. You, however, seem to think that chants and yout tube videos of (admitedly inappropriate) free speech equates to the same thing as cops killing innocent people.

it is pretty clear you lack the ability to discuss this issue in a rational or logical manner. Oh well.

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Oh ok, now I get it. You think Michael Brown (where this whole BLM movement started) and Eric Garner, and Freddie Gray were "innocent people". Wow! Ok, that explains a lot where you are getting your rationale. No point in going any further with you....good luck.

The outrage surrounding this planned protest seems to be proportional to one's ignorance as to the scope of the problem.

Well they were legally innocent, if that counts for anything anymore.

So that is a "no" on finding a link where I endoresed violence against LEO's? Great, thanks.

The rest of your post is very telling. You seem to lack the understanding that cops are not supposed to act as jusge, juror and executioner. We can debate the Michael brown issue, but there was no justifiable defense in the killings of Eric Garner and Freddie Gray. Whatever their past may have been, it does not justify cops killing them. Period, end of story. But hey, it was just a couple of dead black men. Nothing for you to worry about...just move along.

Whatever you do, don't watch this video...it may force you to confront some ugly truths about your beliefs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwYVJ4W7DPo

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do you realize that showing them that video does nothing? they'll justify it as the kid had something that looked like a gun. the cops have families too (all which i agree with actually).

the thing is, IF this child was white he would NOT have been shot like that. there is no ifs ands or buts about it. that's the really really scary part. no one is arguing that the cops were not worried about their own safety. the 911 call said someone has a gun and is pointing it at people. as a LEO you go in knowing that you can be killed and not see your family. that is scary. but the simple fact is that there was no warning. just out of the car and wasted the child. in any other situation where the person was not black the cops pull up, open doors, draws weapons and yells for the child to drop the gun. THAT is what folks are arguing about. THAT is the core of BLM.


did you SERIOUSLY not read a word that i said? it's funny that i write ALL that and the only thing you care about is if i believe they should block a stupid road race, which i clearly state.

Oh I know....but sometimes the only thing you can do is show someone the truth.

Here is the thing which some people can't seem to comprehend.....no one is saying that guys like Michael Brown, Freddie Gray or Eric Garner were angels. It is pretty obvious from their pasts that they weren't.....but that isn't the point. Attempting to portray support for anti-cop violence as portraying the victims as "good people" or model citizens is simply deflection away from the central issue.

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Hmmm, I bet JT10000 is one of the few people of color posting in this thread. So maybe his reality and common sense aren't disconnected, they are just different because of his different life experiences. Of course most white people can't even accept that different people have different life experiences.

The thing that drives me craziest about this thread is people who put their head in the sand completely. "racism doesn't exist" is the worst response.

I get that lots of people believe in some bootstrap ideals. But to deny racism and then victim blame is so unbelievably terrible, I'm at a loss.

By the way, Minnesota political leaders are agreeing to meet with BLM leaders. So to those who said "what could this accomplish?" It got them a seat at the table and someone to hear them out and that's the whole point of activism.

You keep doing this, and you keep ignoring me when I point it out. Eric Garner was not "killed" by a cop, and certainly not intentionally. He was resisting arrest and died after the scuffle that ensued BECAUSE he was resisting arrest. His ill-health was likely a significant contributing factor also. And regardless of his alleged crime, no matter how petty you think it was, had he not resisted arrest, he would still be alive today.

And if you go about in public brandishing a gun, even a fake one that looks 100% real, then you have to expect some potentially serious consequences. Don't go about pointing guns in public, don't resist arrest.

As you can see from my earlier posts I'm not suggesting some changes in policing techniques would be unwarranted. But the examples being used to criticize the police are often bad ones. Now if Michael Slager is acquitted, then that would be a good example to use, but for now he's been charged with murder. And by the way, while I do not condone Slager's actions, if Walter Scott had not fled, he too would still be alive. Unfortunately part of the gun culture in the States makes it easier for police to justify shooting suspects sooner rather than later. Note police in the UK are not even armed. Cue gun control debate...