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What are the rules regarding professionals racing as age groupers in Ironman races? Can a professional race as an age grouper or be on a relay with other age groupers?
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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OK here we go again.


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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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fitzkickjr wrote:
What are the rules regarding professionals racing as age groupers in Ironman races? Can a professional race as an age grouper or be on a relay with other age groupers?

Are you asking because of Chris McDonald being part of a relay in Buffalo Springs?
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [Mike Alexander] [ In reply to ]
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I might have noticed that. Was there already a thread relating to it? I wasn't there, nor have I ever been apart of a relay; but I wouldn't be happy to be knocked off the podium by a team that had a pro.
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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But would you be happy to be on a team that beat a team a pro was on? I find it funny that people would be mad about losing to a team that a pro was on.
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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He had a slow rider and he did not run fast, so it would not take much to beat his relay. :)



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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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You can have professional swimmer/biker/runners on relays. That happens fairly frequently. Just usually a mid/lower level single sport pro so no one cares.

No clue why you'd be bothered by a professional triathlete doing one leg of a relay. They don't even fully specialize in any individual event.

Pros are people trying to get better, just like amateurs. If you don't want to race. Don't pin on a number.
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [oprfcc] [ In reply to ]
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oprfcc wrote:
You can have professional swimmer/biker/runners on relays. That happens fairly frequently. Just usually a mid/lower level single sport pro so no one cares.

No clue why you'd be bothered by a professional triathlete doing one leg of a relay. They don't even fully specialize in any individual event.

Pros are people trying to get better, just like amateurs. If you don't want to race. Don't pin on a number.

^This. We wouldn't want to race somebody faster than ourselves would we!
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [jpay] [ In reply to ]
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If you're on a relay team, and care that much about a podium, then you have a problem. Relays are for beginners and people who have a slight interest in possibly doing a tri one day. If you're a type A personality and wanna win that bad, don't do the relay
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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I've had a current Olympian race in my age group in a sprint distance race, can't say i was too bothered. It's racing and you're going get beaten by faster guys.
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
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I'm just asking if there are rules about it. I've never noticed it done before and thought it strange.
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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fitzkickjr wrote:
I'm just asking if there are rules about it. I've never noticed it done before and thought it strange.

Same here....don't really have an opinion on it, but did find it odd.
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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fitzkickjr wrote:
I'm just asking if there are rules about it. I've never noticed it done before and thought it strange.

Seems like there should be no rule about a pro triathlete being a part of a relay when an olympic level single sport athlete can, and would likely crush the pro triathlete in their chosen discipline.
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [Mike Alexander] [ In reply to ]
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Pros can race in age group races but will see them listed as a Pro and not listed in an age group in the results.

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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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Challenge has done this a lot with their athletes. I know Macca used to do relays, well when he wasn't DNFing races himself. I don't think it would really matter if a elite was on a relay unless they had a elite only relay race and they didn't do that race. Anytime their isn't a elite race anyone can show up. Heck, ask Thomas Gerlach about Wisconsin last year! Not everyone likes the rules since it took the win away from some AGer. Ask him about it or find that thread, that was a good one...

I raced against Lukas Verzbikas and a handful of other elites a few years ago at a local Oly. Sucked because I got my ass handed to me but didn't really care at all.

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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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There is no rule against it. They can race an AG only Ironman branded race but will not be listed in an AG specific results (ie M30-34). They will be listed as PRO. However, they will show up in the overall results.

The only rule is that they can't take world championship slots.

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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [jrielley] [ In reply to ]
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jrielley wrote:
Challenge has done this a lot with their athletes. I know Macca used to do relays, well when he wasn't DNFing races himself. I don't think it would really matter if a elite was on a relay unless they had a elite only relay race and they didn't do that race. Anytime their isn't a elite race anyone can show up. Heck, ask Thomas Gerlach about Wisconsin last year! Not everyone likes the rules since it took the win away from some AGer. Ask him about it or find that thread, that was a good one...

I raced against Lukas Verzbikas and a handful of other elites a few years ago at a local Oly. Sucked because I got my ass handed to me but didn't really care at all.

When I race, all I can control is my effort and how I can do against the clock. All the other stuff I cannot control, so I do not worry about it!

There are SO many other athletes which are so much better than 99% of the Triathletes, that do not need to race for their ego's, that all the slice and dicing that happens to get to our ego's and money, I just smile.

If folks would just be happy to get to the starting line, by looking around at so many people who will NEVER have the health to do it, life is a lot more fun.

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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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fitzkickjr wrote:
What are the rules regarding professionals racing as age groupers in Ironman races? Can a professional race as an age grouper or be on a relay with other age groupers?

IMO sort of a douche move as an active Pro....

"Hey girl / bud, wanna win the relay next weekend so you can feel great about your otherwise shitty life?.....I'll help you out!"

But hey, I am just an judgemental old fart, who probably would turn down such an offer from a female Pro, even though I feel pretty shitty about my life.
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
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HuffNPuff wrote:
oprfcc wrote:
You can have professional swimmer/biker/runners on relays. That happens fairly frequently. Just usually a mid/lower level single sport pro so no one cares.

No clue why you'd be bothered by a professional triathlete doing one leg of a relay. They don't even fully specialize in any individual event.

Pros are people trying to get better, just like amateurs. If you don't want to race. Don't pin on a number.

^This. We wouldn't want to race somebody faster than ourselves would we!

This!

I only want to compete against other mediocre athletes!!!

Haha

What are the complainers gonna do when they hit 40 and the elites "retire" to AG racing?
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [zedzded] [ In reply to ]
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You are an exception :)

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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [salmonsteve] [ In reply to ]
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You are an exception :)

Oh stop it you!
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [zedzded] [ In reply to ]
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Who are these age groupers who work 37.5hrs? They're clearly not committed enough. Part timers.

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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [zedzded] [ In reply to ]
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There's a big overlap in the standard of the best AGers and the worst pros. It's the choice of the athlete so there are AGers that could and should be pro, pro's that probably shouldn't be, and people who alternate between AG and Pro racing.
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Re: Pros racing as age groupers [fitzkickjr] [ In reply to ]
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Is it not better to brag about a second place when you can add: "But the first one was a pro" instead of winning and having to add "in my agegroup" ?
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