I have a pair. I think they are excellent. They are quite comfortable to run in.

I've been looking at these too. How low-cut are they at the front? I hate having HT's (high trousers) so am looking for lower cut than normal shorts. Kind of like the Speedo Fast-skin jammers but not so long. Anybody know of any?

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I have raced 2 1/2 IM in these shorts and the thing I do not like about them is that the liner is rather coarse and after a day of riding and running left me rather chaffed....also, the stitching on the seams is thick on the inside and was also rubbing something fierce by the end of the day....

Desotos and Zoots have fleece liners.....to me, as quickly to dry as the PI's - but much more comfortable for a long day of racing.

Hope this helps.

I love them, I use them for short and long races (IM CdA). The padding is IMO better than Desoto and they don't ride up your legs. Very confortable for the swim and the run too.