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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [pawlaczynski] [ In reply to ]
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pawlaczynski wrote:
timppis wrote:
xoslic wrote:

JTNY- could you post some pics of your PD front hydratation setup, pls ?

to all Canyon CF owners: pls, post as much photos as possible (hacks, setups, upgrades , etc.) Cheers


Here is my setup from last weekends race. PD Aeria Ultimate stem and hydration, F40 pads. Zero spacers under pads and I also removed the spacer under the stem.

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Hey timppis, did you actually cut the steerer after removing that 4cm spacer? I just removed it myself but wondering whether to cut the carbon steerer or keep it in case I don't like the new position

Yes, I shortened the steerer. Before cutting it I trained couple months (winter time) inside on a trainer and tried if the lower setup suits me.

I will post some close ups of the setup soon. The stem is rather heavy but I don’t see that as a huge problem.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [xoslic] [ In reply to ]
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Here are some photos of my cockpit. Sorry about the quality, lightning isn’t the best in my pain cave in the basement.









Haven’t had time to trim the rubber “thing” hugging the frame, currently there is some extra overlapping with the head tube.
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Re: Official Canyon Speedmax CF Owners Thread [commandersnake] [ In reply to ]
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Is anyone running HED Jet Black / Jet + wheels with 25mm tires on the Speedmax CF? Any issues with tire/wheel fitment and rub?
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Re: Official Canyon Speedmax CF Owners Thread [wintershade] [ In reply to ]
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Is anyone running HED Jet Black / Jet + wheels with 25mm tires on the Speedmax CF? Any issues with tire/wheel fitment and rub?

I don't think this will be an issue. The DT Swiss ARC 1400 real wheel on my Speedmax CF has a 28mm external width and came with a 25mm Continental GP Force. Fits perfectly. Hope this helps.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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During my first season, I've used a second hand tri-bike that has served me OK-ish but is definitely not a bike to keep for longer term so with the Speedmax CF 7.0 currently discounted @ €1799, this is the most interesting bike for next season.

However now I am struggling with a sizing issue regarding the Speedmax that I'd like some advice on, see my "spec's" below (taken from current bike which might be slightly too low and too long however for 1/4 distance the fit seems perfect):
- 186cm tall, (90cm inseam, long arms, shortish core, good flexibility in general)
- seat @ 82cm
- pad-stack >605mm (centre)
- pad-reach <530mm (centre)

So basically I need a somewhat long&low / stretched position, close to what I have now
Easiest would be an SLX however that is a no-go (budget-wise).

It seems both Medium and Large have it's problems with regards to my fit, (numbers from Canyon geometry tables):
Medium:
- seat-height: 750 - 880 (820 is right in the middle)
- pad-stack: 605 - 692 so this would fit as 605 is really my minimum stack (flat back)
- pad-reach: 467 - 492 this seems fairly short to me; however might be solved with a longer stem (Aeria)

Large:
- seat-height: 775 - 905 (820 is right in the middle albeit on the lower side)
- pad-stack: 627 - 714 This would be 20mm too tall
- pad-reach: 488 - 513 this is workable, maybe with a longer stem as well

For the medium, my major concerns would be: possibly a somewhat crunched position? and possibly clearance issues between base-bar and knees for out-of-saddle riding

For the large, I feel the fit might be better but only if it would be possible to loose 20mm somewhere in the front-end (spacer)? is there such possibility? or could a lower stack base-bar solve the issue?

any advice?
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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[quote CanyonJay It's the bike with the a true real-world geometry (slightly taller stack and shorter reach than the SLX), and with a standard 1 1/8" steerer, can adjust (and pack/travel to races) with typical ease, allows you to install the cockpit of your choice.[/quote]

Hi, been looking at the CF as where i live, tri bike options are limited, and just seeking clarification on how easy it is to change the cockpit, as looking at the pictures, the deisgn (shape) of the stem makes me think that it wouldn't be as easy as just putting any other stem on the frame. Is it a simple case of just swapping out stems, or is something more complicated involved? To explain, my road bike has a stack of 562, so the quoted minimum of 553 for the XS will potentially leave me unable to get as low as i want (sorry, it's not real-word geo for me). Could i work around it by just undermounting the T4 extensions?

Also, I would need the lower stack nutrition box, but I can't see where I would order it from on the main Canyon webiste (I don't live in the US). Hence, would be grateful if you could point out where I might find it. Thanks in advance.

PS: Do you have the standover height for the XS?
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [trimon] [ In reply to ]
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You're absolutely right. The flare at the back of the stem is only there for negligible aero (cosmetic) effect as it meets with the front of the storage box. So yes, you will lose that effect if you switch stems, but it does indeed remove (with a pair of 5mm bolts at the base of the stem) from the steerer like any other stem.

For sure, you can get lower, but will need to replace the Profile Design J4 bracket that comes with the bike, with their L2 bracket to get the extensions below the basebar. Totally doable.

Just went to check the XS Speedmax CF in our demo fleet; standover height on the XS is 73.5cm

Finally, low stack nutrition boxes are in the same boat with the rear bottle bracket of the Speedmax SLX; we have no ETA on arrival into the U.S. for them as yet.

-Jay

Jay Prasuhn
Social Content Specialist, Canyon Bicycles
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 184cm and went with M. Did two 70.3 and 5150 this season and the bike seemed fine. Now I'm trying to adjust the fit: removed the spacer under the stem so dropped it by 4cm. Swapped stem from 80 to 90mm and have longer extensions to be installed. After all those modifications my position will be super low and hopefully I can train during the winter to be comfortable with it for half/future full distance.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [pawlaczynski] [ In reply to ]
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At 184cm/6'0, you're a medium all day, so you 100 percent have the right size.

And yep, take the winter to train to the position....but be sure to come up as you need, to be able to ease into it through the winter.

Glad you're digging the ride, hope the fit and position comes together nicely!

Jay Prasuhn
Social Content Specialist, Canyon Bicycles
twitter.com/jayprasuhn

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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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Jay
My wife just got the Speedmax WMN CF 8.0 LTD and we are looking at her race wheel options. She has an Zipp 808/404 setup she used on her previous TT bike, but the 808 isn't 11speed compatible (pre-Firecrest). My question is, how aero are the Reynolds Strike SLG compared to a 2007 808? I haven't seen any windtunnel data on the Reynolds. Thanks in advance!

ROLL TIDE ROLL!
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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Hi CanyonJay and others

any advice on my "fit" issue for a speedmax SL?
I'm 186 myself. Need Pad-stack of 605 (lower not needed), Pad-reach 530 (maybe a bit shorter)

Would a Medium fit me if I would replace the stem with a 100mm Aeria? (would be my idea anyway to also include the hydration) or better to go with a Large and then use a lower-stack basebar?

thanks
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [Kempenaer] [ In reply to ]
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Kempenaer wrote:
Hi CanyonJay and others

any advice on my "fit" issue for a speedmax SL?
I'm 186 myself. Need Pad-stack of 605 (lower not needed), Pad-reach 530 (maybe a bit shorter)

Would a Medium fit me if I would replace the stem with a 100mm Aeria? (would be my idea anyway to also include the hydration) or better to go with a Large and then use a lower-stack basebar?

thanks
You should let a good fitter help you decide on size. Totally comparing apples to oranges here, but I am your size (185cm) and on my Aeroad I am a size XL. That makes a size medium sound small.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [BAMATRI] [ In reply to ]
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Jay
My wife just got the Speedmax WMN CF 8.0 LTD and we are looking at her race wheel options. She has an Zipp 808/404 setup she used on her previous TT bike, but the 808 isn't 11speed compatible (pre-Firecrest). My question is, how aero are the Reynolds Strike SLG compared to a 2007 808? I haven't seen any windtunnel data on the Reynolds. Thanks in advance!


Just because the existing hub isn't compatible doesn't mean you can't upgrade the wheel. Find a local quality wheelbuilder and have them lace a brand new 11s compatible hub to the 808. You just have to pay for new spokes (bladed is around $3 each or so...I think, and a hub, which can be $50-400 depending on how nice a one you want). Plus maybe an hour or two of labor to put it together. I'd personally get a DT Swiss hub (DT240s are really nice or to save a little money DT350 works well too but are heavier).

Not necessary cheap but probably less hassle trying to sell that wheel and buy another one. Or you could do the 11s tricks out there for 10s only hubs. Or just buy they Edco monoblock 11s cassette (not cheap either but probably cheaper than rebuilding the wheel with a new hub though).
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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CanyonJay wrote:
At 184cm/6'0, you're a medium all day, so you 100 percent have the right size.

And yep, take the winter to train to the position....but be sure to come up as you need, to be able to ease into it through the winter.

Glad you're digging the ride, hope the fit and position comes together nicely!


At 184-185 cm a size M would be too small. I first ordered size M, but the frame felt too short - maybe suitable for short TT and sprint tri , so I replaced it with a L size Speedy CF and being 185cm, inseam 87cm it seems it fits well now. I did some 70.3 and it is very comfy.

Swapping a stem or extensions does not solve the problem of having a short frame , your center of gravity is not where it should be.

Unfortunately Canyon size calculator does not work for everyone.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [timppis] [ In reply to ]
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timppis or CanyonJay - What is the weigh difference between PD Aeria Ultimate 100m stem and Canyon 90mm stem?
Could you pls weight them and post the results? thanks
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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Hi,

I’m currently looking at the Speedmax CF 7, which is on sale right now.

I used PPS, and its advice was that I need a size S, which surprised me a bit as I’m 177/5’10” with a 82/32” inseam, 82kg/180lbs not flexible.
It did note however that according to my height I would be size M, but due to an ideal seat height of 72,6cm according to PPS, I’m a better match for a size S.

So I concluded that I have short legs for a person my height.

I currently ride a Cervelo S5 2012 in size 54 (stack 555, reach 378).
Setup with drop bars, 90mm stem and rear seat post (73*) hole is comfortable. Setup with brezza tri bar 20mm rizer, 90mm stem and front seatpost (75*) hole, is too bunched up. I tried a lot of different settings/saddles. Only thing I’ve found comfortable was a longer stem 130mm. The longer stem works great on the trainer but is very dangerous for my biking abilities when riding outdoors.

Can anyone offer me a view on the S vs M sizing question? Or is the geometry of the SpeedMax CF not a good fit for a person with my morfology.

Thank you
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [stevededoncker] [ In reply to ]
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I'm about the same size as you. Ride a 56 Cervelo P3 (but I would have fit on a 54 too). Just bought a Canyon cyclocross bike and they recommended a small, even though I thought I would be medium. The small fits perfect. Awesome bike. The small cyclocross bike is very close in size to my 56 Cervelo.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [stevededoncker] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Steve,

Indeed, our size labeling tends to run small when compared to other brands. I have ridden a 56 all my life, and ride a medium in Canyon bikes. So a 54 lines up perfectly for a size small.

As to your morphology, best bet is to call our in-house team (phone number lives at the top of the website), and they can walk you through any outliers, etc. that may preclude you from one size or another. Obviously, there's going to be a variances in balance, etc. in Your inseam doesn't seem short, so I don't see there being much outlier. But I'm not the fit expert... give our guys a call and they can walk you through it!

-Jay

Jay Prasuhn
Social Content Specialist, Canyon Bicycles
twitter.com/jayprasuhn

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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Jay,

Does the CF come with a seatpost which is compatible with the Canyon bottle mounting kit?

Thanks,
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not Jay but have CF 8 and just received seatpost mount from Canyon and it's compatible. When you look at the back of the seatpost there are two holes covered by rubber plugs. That's where the mount goes.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [pawlaczynski] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks :)

Not an owner yet, but am weighing my options up at roughly £2k mark so I'm looking at the 7.0.

Hopefully Jay or a 7.0 owner can confirm it's still the case with the seatpost on the lower offering.

On a separate note: I'm torn between this and the P2. Any others which should be on my radar? I'm in the UK.
Looking for primarily a good quality frame which justifies upgrades over time.
Not really pursuing the 2nd hand market because I had lots of niggles from my last TT rig which I bought that way.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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Yes! There is mounting bolts on the back of the seat post of the 7.0 also. See my previously uploaded picture with my "hack" for a simple rear bottle cage behind the saddle :-)
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Re: Official Canyon Speedmax CF Owners Thread [JTNY] [ In reply to ]
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I have a general speedmax question. I've seen a lot of talk about the frame storage in front of the seatpost but I can't find any information about it on the website. Does that storage area come with all models? SLX only? Right now I'm bouncing between the 8.0 Di2 and the SLX 8.0 SL but I'm curious if one, both, or none of those have the storage area.
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Re: Official Canyon Speedmax CF Owners Thread [dbraat] [ In reply to ]
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dbraat wrote:
I have a general speedmax question. I've seen a lot of talk about the frame storage in front of the seatpost but I can't find any information about it on the website. Does that storage area come with all models? SLX only? Right now I'm bouncing between the 8.0 Di2 and the SLX 8.0 SL but I'm curious if one, both, or none of those have the storage area.

integrated storage compartment is only available on SLX model. It is in a rear frame triangle and in the top tube . This can accommodate a pump , CO2 cartridge and a very squeezed butyl inner tube. Special storage sleeve is provided for cartridges , which go further into the top tube.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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Liaman wrote:
Thanks :)

On a separate note: I'm torn between this and the P2. Any others which should be on my radar? I'm in the UK.
Looking for primarily a good quality frame which justifies upgrades over time.
Not really pursuing the 2nd hand market because I had lots of niggles from my last TT rig which I bought that way.

I have a Speedmax 8.0 Di2, prior to that I had a 2015 P2, while the P2 was nice the Canyon felt way more stiffer and handled better. the only downside is getting bike support, I get the stink eye every time I take it to a LBS for service.
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