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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [Jim@EROsports]
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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [stevej]
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My Dealer said that Cervelo had not enough Shimano Parts so they changed the launched!
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [HappyWeirdo]
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Epic fail. Kind of like that 140.6 launch
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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [HappyWeirdo]
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HappyWeirdo wrote:
My Dealer said that Cervelo had not enough Shimano Parts so they changed the launched!Really? I just came in the store today when my partner got off the phone with Cervelo and he told me that they now say that the 15th was the earliest possible release date. But the European Cervelo Salesmen also didn't know why it didnt happen. But Cervelo Europe still claims that they would start shipping the bike within January? sounds like a tough timeline. Lets see
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [HappyWeirdo]
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HappyWeirdo wrote:
My Dealer said that Cervelo had not enough Shimano Parts so they changed the launched!Lol how can they be so bad at this. Every single time they release their top of the line tri bike this happens.
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [Chris_Mint]
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Do you really think They have different Release Dates?
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [AnthonyParis]
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AnthonyParis wrote:
Thursday 15th November...I was wondering if they gave any information to the shops in France... any news?
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [HappyWeirdo]
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HappyWeirdo wrote:
Do you really think They have different Release Dates?
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [BryanD]
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BryanD wrote:
Epic fail. Kind of like that 140.6 launchIs it though? They havenât advertised anything to the public. A few random people have been claiming different dates. Theyâve got us talking about a bike that has no published timeline.
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [Grant.Reuter]
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Grant.Reuter wrote:
HappyWeirdo wrote:
My Dealer said that Cervelo had not enough Shimano Parts so they changed the launched!Lol how can they be so bad at this. Every single time they release their top of the line tri bike this happens.
Any time I hear of a new Cervelo bike I add 1-3 months to the release time line
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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [ffmedic84]
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ffmedic84 wrote:
BryanD wrote:
Epic fail. Kind of like that 140.6 launchIs it though? They havenât advertised anything to the public.
But rhey advertised the 15th as launch date to all deales I know off in Europe. I think that comes close. But I for sure you cant blame them since they can release their bike whenever they want. But I still think that this procedure is quite annoying...
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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [BryanD]
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What does Shimano part availability have to do with a marketing launch. They don't have to say when it will ship in the launch (other than early '19 for example)...Seems they are risking losing people to buy other bikes as they fumble around with this launch....
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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [CPT Chaos]
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I personnaly saw the P5 Disc in Germany on August.
Then my cervelo agent told me kona présentation.
Nothing
Then 15th November
Nothing
Now begining of december.
As you can see it s complicated đ
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Then my cervelo agent told me kona présentation.
Nothing
Then 15th November
Nothing
Now begining of december.
As you can see it s complicated đ
Professional French Bike Shop.
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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [AnthonyParis]
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Not sure these changes are a big deal... apart from usual forum frustration.
For me, a bigger problem for Cervelo is the lack of high profile triathete on these bikes. Not talking about physical capacities, but about image.
Van Lierde is getting old.
McNamee not known.
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On the road side, happily there is Dumoulin :-)
For me, a bigger problem for Cervelo is the lack of high profile triathete on these bikes. Not talking about physical capacities, but about image.
Van Lierde is getting old.
McNamee not known.
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On the road side, happily there is Dumoulin :-)
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [Pyrenean Wolf]
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Pyrenean Wolf wrote:
Not sure these changes are a big deal... apart from usual forum frustration. For me, a bigger problem for Cervelo is the lack of high profile triathete on these bikes. Not talking about physical capacities, but about image.
Van Lierde is getting old.
McNamee not known.
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On the road side, happily there is Dumoulin :-)
Judging by McNamee's bike, he's not even sponsored by them, his logos were all covered at Kona this year. Here's the current roster of athletes according to their website... Tim Rea and Jake Montgomery also ride the bike, but those could be regional sponsorships or some other type of arrangement? Either way, I'd agree, though probably great people, and talented athletes, nobody on that list is moving the needle.
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [Andres]
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Move what needle? Theyâre still destroying the bike count at KONA every year. They lost some bikes this year but there also have been quite a few new bikes enter the market.
Cervelo has had data for forever on cost of sponsorship and how much it increases sales. My guess is having Lionel on a bike would have little effect on the bottom line.
Cervelo has had data for forever on cost of sponsorship and how much it increases sales. My guess is having Lionel on a bike would have little effect on the bottom line.
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [Grant.Reuter]
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Grant.Reuter wrote:
Move what needle? Theyâre still destroying the bike count at KONA every year. They lost some bikes this year but there also have been quite a few new bikes enter the market. Cervelo has had data for forever on cost of sponsorship and how much it increases sales. My guess is having Lionel on a bike would have little effect on the bottom line.
Umm no.
They win every year because the same people year after year keep coming back and riding their Cervelos. If you really want to see who is winning the bike count, see who the first timers are and how long they have had their bikes.
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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [Grant.Reuter]
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Grant.Reuter wrote:
Move what needle? Theyâre still destroying the bike count at KONA every year. They lost some bikes this year but there also have been quite a few new bikes enter the market. Cervelo has had data for forever on cost of sponsorship and how much it increases sales. My guess is having Lionel on a bike would have little effect on the bottom line.
Well, regarding Kona bike count, with current trend, Canyon will equal Cervelo in 4 to 5 years.
Or faster if we take into account the current lack of presence of Canyon in North America, now changing.
So, maybe a little efficient marketing traction could be useful at some point ?
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [ffmedic84]
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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [Grant.Reuter]
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Grant.Reuter wrote:
Move what needle? Theyâre still destroying the bike count at KONA every year. They lost some bikes this year but there also have been quite a few new bikes enter the market. Cervelo has had data for forever on cost of sponsorship and how much it increases sales. My guess is having Lionel on a bike would have little effect on the bottom line.
This is not to throw shade since they're all tremendous athletes, and as far as I know, good people as well, but... any needle? (In North America?)
I don't have any info, but as far as Lionel goes, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't even in on the list. Canyon, either disagrees with the math on how someone like Lionel affects the bottom line, or they had a bit of leverage over Lionel based on his consult with the results and got a "good deal". Either way, what Lionel has been been able to do with Talbot in 6 months in terms of content is pretty great... now he'll have at least Talbot and presumably some additional resources with the team at Canyon.
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [AnthonyParis]
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AnthonyParis wrote:
I personnaly saw the P5 Disc in Germany on August. Then my cervelo agent told me kona présentation.
Nothing
Then 15th November
Nothing
Now begining of december.
As you can see it s complicated đ
Any news ?
Planned date ?
Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [Pyrenean Wolf]
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Latest I heard through Cervelo is 15 dec.
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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [DFW_Tri]
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DFW_Tri wrote:
this sounds more like a lesson in âdonât believe everything you read on the internetâ than some sort of company fail.Peope saying this is an epic Cervelo fail donât seem to factor in Cervelo have not said a word publicly theyâre releasing anything.
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Re: New 2019 Cervelo P5 Disc Brake [stevej]
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I stopped in at a LBS - they said Cervelo is not providing any real details yet on the P5 Disc and they are thinking it won't be available for purchase or delivery any time soon. Has anyone heard differently?
So I'm considering buying the '19 BMC Timemachine 01 Disc Frameset as it fits my Pad Stack and Reach numbers well. What are peoples thoughts on the BMC TM01 Disc?
So I'm considering buying the '19 BMC Timemachine 01 Disc Frameset as it fits my Pad Stack and Reach numbers well. What are peoples thoughts on the BMC TM01 Disc?
I stopped by my LBS about two weeks ago. Same reaction on P5 Disc but interestingly, at the beginning he thought I was talking about P3X or P3 Disc, so he gave away it will be coming out early next year.
I asked about the BMC Disc as well and he said he had some issues with delivery From BMC not to mention that fit for me might not be great as I am quite short in reg to legs. Good advice though.
I currently ride a P2 size 51 and goes great so holding on for the new P3. Other option would be the CUBE Aerium C-68 that Andi Boecherer rides that will also come out with discs.
I asked about the BMC Disc as well and he said he had some issues with delivery From BMC not to mention that fit for me might not be great as I am quite short in reg to legs. Good advice though.
I currently ride a P2 size 51 and goes great so holding on for the new P3. Other option would be the CUBE Aerium C-68 that Andi Boecherer rides that will also come out with discs.