This threads about to explode...can the government go after him if he admits? Would there be a 1 year triathlon ban or a deal worked out with Tygart?

The siren song of Kona sings.....

*runs off to grab popcorn*

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I hope he makes a full admission based on his desire to improve the sport and help his foundation, without any expectation of concessions from USADA.

Could the government go after him for what?

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Styrrell

Lots of bad things will begin to happen legally if he comes clean. I'd keep quiet if I were him. I'm not seeing a huge upside for him.

To quote the article "so he can continue his athletic career" You have to be freekking kidding me. What an arrogant ass

It's in the New York Times. I wonder if the story is true.

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Perjury. He was deposed under oath in the SCA trial, where he apparently claimed to have never doped.

So, assuming he doped for ~10 years, would it be fair for him to return to competition, after benefitting from training/doping for that long? I say no.

A sentence reduction would likely be eight eight years, which is what the WADA rules allow as the maximum reduction of a lifetime sentence. He won't be at Kona until he is fifty.

Is he just waiting until no one cares anymore or something?

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So, is this your home or work address?

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This is sarcasm right? Thought so.

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Pretty sure the Statute of Limitations is 5 years, so he's free on perjury. The other thing that is brought up is the money from the postal service. I imagine thats a pretty complex case, but they sponsered the team to get publicity and that ended up to be a great deal for them by all accounts.

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Styrrell

Can't speak for the perjury but I know Floyd brought that whistleblower case against him and the damages would be huge. Tens of millions from what I have read.
Totally agree with you on the sponsorship deal. He delivered great exposure for USPS. It's not like all of the sudden people are gonna say, "omg USPS sponsored lance and he was a doper. Not using their services anymore."

The US Postal Service is effectively bankrupt and has been for years. How did sponsoring a cycling team help them from a monetary standpoint?

Smells like a trial balloon to me.

So far the government hasn't joined the FL case. That isn't a good sign. The reports on its worth are just based on the possible amount of fraud I doubt that all of money waas used for drugs ;-).

I'd like to see SCA get their money and the newspaper that is suing over losing the defamation suit also. But I'd really like to see Betsy Andreu sue and win a defamation suit. Somehow I think it would gall LA more to write her a check for $500 than it would to send SCA $10 mil.

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Styrrell

Some people just dont know when to quit.

Why believe anything he has to say? What's to prevent him from continuing to race, doped? He obviously knows how to pass tests 'clean'. Maybe he will be like the other dopers that all decided to ride clean in magical year 2006 and onward... And get even better race results, to boot. A farce of a farce. I think he should just have his own race series, with his own rules or lack thereof, and move on with his life.

I think it would be great. And I think a limited ban and return to sport would be great as well. If minor players like Levi, etc. got 6 mos for full confessions than a 1yr ban for Lance, if he "fully" confessed, would be reasonable. Lance didn't invent doping and to single him out as the "villain" of the doping age (still in progress) is a bit melodramatic. He was just smarter and better about it. Just like he was smarter and better about his training. We can't forget that this guy lived like a monk for 7-10yrs and was more meticulous about his training and diet than any pro cyclist in history (my opinion). He wasn't getting busted for DUI or ecstasy during the off season (Jan Ulrich anyone), he was always laser focused (except maybe in the lady dept) and it gave him dramatic results (with a little help of course). So he lied. Big effin' deal. Name one doper (cyclist or other) who, when first confronted said "Aw shucks, you got me. Guess I'll give up my career now.". BS-not human nature. You always fight for what you have. Whether you are FOS or not. Time changes that. Further introspection changes that. But initially... deny, deny, deny and make counter accusations. Human nature.

His cancer status and cancer work doesn't really come into my calculations. I'm talking from a pure sporting perspective.

As a pure human specimen (yes I know, tainted by drugs) he is on par with few and from a spectator (and participant) point of view I would like to see how far he could push the envelope of human athletic performance.

I am a doctor but I have no idea how a decade of doping would effect his current performance, if we operate under the assumption that he has been doping free since leaving cycling (the first time) he would be 6-7yrs removed from doping. Thinking back to my med school days, I am hard pressed to think of permanent changes/enhancements that PEDs or other drugs would produce (I defer to my colleagues that are more informed about this) but generally, except for cancer Rx and similar, all drugs need to be continued for continued benefit. As far as I know PEDs don't change the genetic expression of mitochondria, etc. I know there have been threads about this but it would be informative to here from other M.D.s on the subject.

Anyway, I would love to see how far Lance could go. Obviously, if/when he returns to sport he would be under heightened scrutiny and would/should be tested more "randomly" than other athletes and definitely after EVERY race.

I can absolutely understand why people are angry at Lance. I have been a Lance fan since his first homecoming in '99 when I lived in Austin, TX. and am very disappointed in him but to vilify him any more or less than any other doper is really inappropriate. I am not an apologist but neither am I an absolutist. EVERYONE should be given a second chance. Millar, Leipheimer, Basso, et. al., and Lance. Lance was just really, really, really good a hiding his doping. Just like he was really, really, really good at riding his bike.

Confess. Repay money. Avoid criminal charges if possible. Return to racing. Get on with life.

it is almost certain this admission is driven by a potential settlement in the Qui Tam case and maybe USADA sentence reduction so long as he provides info on his suppliers, doctors, team leaders, and the UCI. He'd have to turn full stoolie. Then settle with Floyd and the government for 10 to 15 million instead of the potential of 30 million if he lost, which it seems almost assured he would do. Floyd gets 2-3 million after taxes, lawyers, and paying off the Floyd Fairness Fund victims, and USPS gets 7 or 8 million of its $10 million back.

Since he's been exposed as a liar and cheat, can we please do away with the "trained harder and smarter" meme. You actually have no independent evidence to support that claim.

As I said before Ben If that Qui Tam lawsuit by the doper is succesfull I will donate $100 to the Eleonore Rocks charity in your name