i never thought contrador was that stretched out.

You're not Slowman ;-)

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That helmet specially made for him ? It hugs his shoulders like a glove. On another note that is a tasty looking scab on his knee.

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It looks similar to the one they made for Lance, the question is when will they release one so we can actually buy it.


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while we're on that topic, his awkward shifting was a result of an overly tight hip angle than hes used to, or a lack of time trial training. not an overly long cockpit.

What part of this position causes him to have that hot little set of boobeez?

Would that be a good example of turtleing?

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Now then, for those who continually pipe up during aerodynamics discussions on ST and say "Forget that stuff...just train harder!", here's a nice quote from Riis:



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Like there is any similarity between the TT's that the pro cyclists do and the bike leg of a triathlon,especially Ironman.

Give me a break!

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Those would be "moobs"...and IME, that apparent "feature" is a result of a skinsuit not necessarily being cut across the chest with a "well-shrugged" position in mind.

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I thought it was about the tainted Spanish steak that gives you super human powers, much like the "whiskey" Landis drank the night before his great come back.

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A timed bike event is a timed bike event...

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Hes not really even turtling, it just looks like it because his helmet fits so good. You really shouldn't have to turtle much with a helmet designed especially for you. But i don't have 15k for a helmet...

you sure?

you ever tried putting out 400+ watts at a body weight of like 150lbs?

ass not connected to seat much

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A triathlon is not timed bike event,it is a timed swim,bike,run event.The fact that there is that swim first and a run afterward means that the bike leg is not a TT and is not ridden like one.

You know that but you will keep arguing the point because you clearly love all the aero stuff.That is fine but you can't compare the two events.

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i have no doubt hes "floating" on the seat, but i dont believe its a saddle issue.

the ironman bike is a bridge from the swim to the run. its all about efficiency, nutrition and staying within yourself so you can throw down a killer run.

Perhaps you can explain to me then how reducing the "demand" during the bike leg hurts the following run?

Both events are about going the fastest (edit: you can) on a given amount of power. To say you can't compare them is short-sighted in the least...

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Well said..Now if I could only follow your advice my triathlon world would be a better place.

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most of the misconceptions come from the old notion that certain positions and/or equipment choices work for a time trial and are not sustainable for a 5-6hr bike ride and even if they were, it would mess up the run.

Hmm...sorry mate, but Tom is right. The only difference is that you don't try to go as fast as you can over 112mi, but try to go as fast as you can
after swimming, and while still being able to eat on the bike and digest your food, and still be able to run off the bike. So, you have a couple
of more variables to add, but in the end, it's still the same story.

So...if you're agreeing above about "efficiency", explain to me how that doesn't imply that aerodynamics is important, as Mr. Riis is quoted as saying about TTs?

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It's interesting that Contador is quoted in that article linked above that he rode 150 km in that position not that long ago ;-)

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Because the "efficiency" you are talking about between the two events at the pro level are different.In a TT you are trying to be as aerodynamicly efficient as possible to increase speed at a given power(effort) level to shave SECONDS off you finish time.In a triathlon you are trying to be as aerodynamically "efficient" as possible to ride faster at a power level that will still enable you to run quickly off the bike.

There is a difference in the two sports but you already know that or perhaps you need to watch some replays of Chris Lieto in Kona.

I never said aerodynamics is not relevant in triathlon but that for the vast majority of triathletes,once fit properly, training harder and smarter will reap greater rewards than trying to buy speed.

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Whoa....that is his position AFTER they shortened his cockpit by 2 cm?!?!? Yikes!!

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