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Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video)
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New video from Lionel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bveOtX-f3c

Short version: If Lionel's bone heals as planned, he'll be back to hard biking early June and begin running around June 24th. If all goes well he plans to toe the line at Ironman Tremblant again, and hopes to grab a Kona spot there.

I really admire Lionel's transparency and being so open about his triathlon journey. I'm also racing Tremblant, again, and would be excited to see him on course for a second straight year.
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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I’m as big of a Lionel fanboy as there is on this forum, I love seeing him succeed. I love his optimism. But can he honestly to a man think after not running for 3 months and biking for 2, that he can just hammer back into shape in 8 weeks? And be prepared to win an Ironman, with it being the last chance qualifier, I’m sure there will be some pretty decent talent toeing the line looking for a slot. I’m sure his sponsors are maybe pushing to see him on the start line of a race sooner rather than later. Would it not be better for him personally to basically write off the year and look at a late season race to KQ for 2020? Who knows, I’m no where near qualified to be a coach, so I am just spitballing here!

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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Yikes, so there's a chance he doesn't even get a slot at Kona in 2019. Wow, you can never predict what happens in this sport.

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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [Leavitt] [ In reply to ]
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Leavitt wrote:
I’m as big of a Lionel fanboy as there is on this forum, I love seeing him succeed. I love his optimism. But can he honestly to a man think after not running for 3 months and biking for 2, that he can just hammer back into shape in 8 weeks? And be prepared to win an Ironman, with it being the last chance qualifier, I’m sure there will be some pretty decent talent toeing the line looking for a slot. I’m sure his sponsors are maybe pushing to see him on the start line of a race sooner rather than later. Would it not be better for him personally to basically write off the year and look at a late season race to KQ for 2020? Who knows, I’m no where near qualified to be a coach, so I am just spitballing here!

What are you talking about.

He's on the 90k per week swim plan...probably doing 30 hrs per week. the guy will be in awesome shape for Tremblant.....multi month taper on the pounding front and cardio totally jacked from all that swimming and he gets to leverage all those years of leg base!!!! Lots of time to get ready for Tremblant, I bet this is the best thing that happens for the Kona build. He won't forget how to run and biking is such a brain dead sport (at least tri bike...get aero, pound the pedals) , he just needs a few weeks to get his neck used to being aero again and pound out some miles.

Dev
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [Leavitt] [ In reply to ]
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Leavitt wrote:
. But can he honestly to a man think after not running for 3 months and biking for 2, that he can just hammer back into shape in 8 weeks?


I believe 8 weeks could very well be enough for him to shape up enough to qualify for Kona at MT. What I don't believe is that he can do that and also perform well at Kona 7 weeks later.

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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Agree with Dev. It’s not like he’s on the couch all that time. Now more than ever though he better not try to self coach building back up.
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Jeebus, 22 min long?
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [MadTownTRI] [ In reply to ]
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It's a fast 22 min

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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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What did his coach have to say???


He who understands the WHY, will understand the HOW.
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Leavitt wrote:
I’m as big of a Lionel fanboy as there is on this forum, I love seeing him succeed. I love his optimism. But can he honestly to a man think after not running for 3 months and biking for 2, that he can just hammer back into shape in 8 weeks? And be prepared to win an Ironman, with it being the last chance qualifier, I’m sure there will be some pretty decent talent toeing the line looking for a slot. I’m sure his sponsors are maybe pushing to see him on the start line of a race sooner rather than later. Would it not be better for him personally to basically write off the year and look at a late season race to KQ for 2020? Who knows, I’m no where near qualified to be a coach, so I am just spitballing here!


What are you talking about.
He's on the 90k per week swim plan...probably doing 30 hrs per week. the guy will be in awesome shape for Tremblant.....multi month taper on the pounding front and cardio totally jacked from all that swimming and he gets to leverage all those years of leg base!!!! Lots of time to get ready for Tremblant, I bet this is the best thing that happens for the Kona build. He won't forget how to run and biking is such a brain dead sport (at least tri bike...get aero, pound the pedals) , he just needs a few weeks to get his neck used to being aero again and pound out some miles.
Dev

It will indeed be very interesting to see how much he is able to improve his swim during this 3 months or so of swim only. IIRC, he was a 53-54 min non-wetsuit IM swimmer last year. What do you think Dev??? Maybe take 3 min or so off his swim times from last year??? 3 min = 180 sec or about 4.7 sec per 100 m, which would be a pretty huge improvement. :)


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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [MadTownTRI] [ In reply to ]
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MadTownTRI wrote:
Jeebus, 22 min long?

He’s a conversationalist.

"I was tired, so I shut off my brain and my body finished without me"
~KFU, age 13
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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one of my favorite ST things to do...

see what Dev calls. see it happen just as Dev called it.

Will LS show up and win everything? I doubt that. If healthy, will he be relevant? I'd think so cuz he's so stubborn.

I do think, however, that this has left him very little room for error on race day strategy and execution...cuz he's so stubborn.

really hope he doesn't do a practice IM the weekend before IMWC if he does get there. 🤦‍♂️


Will be watching closely with my popcorn and Red Bull.




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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [Leavitt] [ In reply to ]
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He might not need to win Tremblant to get a slot. Cody already has his slot and the others toeing the line may already have their Kona slots, so a 3rd or 4th place may give him a rolldown slot. It's actually not that far fetched.

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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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I wouldn’t be surprised if he tears it up. His fitness and endurance from past years, last year especially, was so high and he continually raced overtrained. If he’s smart and doesn’t overdue it going in “fresh” could do wonders.
That said I’m not a LS fan so I’m still going for Frodo.
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [BGildenstern] [ In reply to ]
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I'm far from a professional athlete, but man do some things in this video make me question Lionel.

"It hurt but I went and did 22k's on it" (paraphrasing)

And then,
"I was feeling lazy so I didn't warm up, and went and did my hard run effort"

Take my opinion with a grain of salt but it seems like he still has this inherent stubbornness. How can he perform at an elite level if he doesn't listen to his body? This injury shouldn't have gotten to this point after training on it for a few days after the crash

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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [travisfodor] [ In reply to ]
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“I'm far from a professional athlete”.

Unfortunately, so is LS.

Scott

"I was tired, so I shut off my brain and my body finished without me"
~KFU, age 13
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [GreatScott] [ In reply to ]
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He gave off this vibe


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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [travisfodor] [ In reply to ]
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My big takeaway was how badly he
lacks bike handling skills. He talks about taking corners hard and then falling on his ass stopped at a water fountain. It actually makes me worry that if he’s a professional then how bad are the amateur ranks? I’ve witnessed bad riding at IM events, but Lionel’s story brings new concern to my next race. It makes me aware of how many folks
simply cannot ride. I’m usually ripping around pretty good. I’m going to need to be very careful at my next race.
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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I would say the chances of him being at Kona this year seem slim. If he is there the chances of us getting showdown with all the top guys being healthy seems completely out of the question.
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Love this guy for the sheer entertainment factor and I find myself rooting for him.

I also always find myself thinking "Why the F are you doing that?" And "Why The F don't you have a coach to keep you in line?"
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [Geek_fit] [ In reply to ]
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So this is why I haven't seen any LS threads lately....
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [Geek_fit] [ In reply to ]
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Geek_fit wrote:
Love this guy for the sheer entertainment factor and I find myself rooting for him.

I also always find myself thinking "Why the F are you doing that?" And "Why The F don't you have a coach to keep you in line?"

I do like the guy, but I worry about his mental health. He comes across a tortured soul. Is he in triathlon for the wrong reasons? Is he using it as an escape, a crutch or whatever? Has he swapped one addiction for another?
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [zedzded] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah. I mean, let's be honest we're all addicted to exercise. However his behavior almost seems self sabotaging.
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [Geek_fit] [ In reply to ]
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That's a very real possibility. There's a book called something like winners are different that gets into that. The book was about poker but the author was a sports psychologist..... Can't remember his name.
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Re: Lionel Sanders Injury Update (youtube video) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Leavitt wrote:
I’m as big of a Lionel fanboy as there is on this forum, I love seeing him succeed. I love his optimism. But can he honestly to a man think after not running for 3 months and biking for 2, that he can just hammer back into shape in 8 weeks? And be prepared to win an Ironman, with it being the last chance qualifier, I’m sure there will be some pretty decent talent toeing the line looking for a slot. I’m sure his sponsors are maybe pushing to see him on the start line of a race sooner rather than later. Would it not be better for him personally to basically write off the year and look at a late season race to KQ for 2020? Who knows, I’m no where near qualified to be a coach, so I am just spitballing here!

What are you talking about.

He's on the 90k per week swim plan...probably doing 30 hrs per week. the guy will be in awesome shape for Tremblant.....multi month taper on the pounding front and cardio totally jacked from all that swimming and he gets to leverage all those years of leg base!!!! Lots of time to get ready for Tremblant, I bet this is the best thing that happens for the Kona build. He won't forget how to run and biking is such a brain dead sport (at least tri bike...get aero, pound the pedals) , he just needs a few weeks to get his neck used to being aero again and pound out some miles.

Dev

I sure hope that happens! I just think he might decide that because he hasn’t done any running in 3 months, he will think he needs to jump back in straight to 100km weeks to make up for lost time.
I do agree this could be the best thing to happen assuming he goes about it the right way!

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