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man that is some SWEET action! is it a 650c? that front chain ring looks BIG!
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I'm jealous - those wheels look very good on the bike... but from this angle your aerobars look like they've been taking viagra.
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Changes from stock: ProfileDesigns TriStryke saddle, Kiups Project Carbon stem, Neuvations M28 Aero Wheelset, Speedfil Hydration, guppy saddlebag & 1 aging slow rider.
I ride with my aerobars in as angled up a position as I am allowed to ride. Its more comfortable for me to be in that "praying mantis" position. This is taken with the camera level with the base bars. 100mm / 80 degree stem with 290mm bars. Oh, and the wheels are AWESOME!!!! Completely worth the $5xx dollars. I doubted that dish wheels would "make you faster" but they really have.
What is the deal with that. There are so many bikes on this thread that are like that yet I have never seen anywhere in any of the tri bike fitting protocol that, that is the right thing to do. Why?
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I was in a similar situation. I showed my 58cm P2C setup to a Cervelo rep at Ironman Canada, and he commented that I should shorten the stem to 80mm from the 100mm that came stock. It made all the difference.
(I don't think it has anything to do with P2Cs, just a coincidence). The Cervelo rep also re-cabled my bike for free because he felt that the shop I bought it from hadn't done an optimum job. Gotta love commitment like that.
The other rider your commented on is achieving the same thing, a vertical arm position relative to the pads, but ends up with the aerobars pointing upwards. Shorter stem might work there as well. If the forearms are horizontal, I would think it would give better aerodynamics.
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My wife says the same thing in reference to something else... ;-)
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Have also lost the box but this may get put on again for longer rides! sorry.
Had to have all the drinks and food as we were doing long ride in Mallorca and had just done this beasty!
Nope, I run it because it is more comfortable for me and I can feel that there is a difference in the amount of air that is hitting me in the chest when I have my forearms angled up in the "praying mantis" style. I know that UCI says its illegal because it "creates another support" (I guess theyve never been on a TT bike before) but Im not racing UCI events meaning Ill never be checked for "two level bars" so I dont care. I have no illusions of instant speed copying a position made popular by pro riders but it just fits my body better and really is comfortable. My position was RETUL fitted to me to be as comfortable as possible considering my body.
Im 6'3", long arms, long legs and compressed and have broken numerous bones (my stint freeriding), including a compressed and fractured L2 a few years back, resulting in back stiffness issues on occasion. Why kill myself (mainly my back) trying to make my long frame go as low as possible to make my frontal profile small when I can angle the bars up a bit and push some of the air down? There were many riders training and tuning this position after Landis and Leipheimer as it had the potential to be far faster than the traditional position before the UCI stepped in. From Cycling News: "Regardless, what the UCI is trying to do here is further prevent riders from adopting the so-called 'praying mantis' position popularized by Levi Leipheimer (Astana) and Floyd Landis (OUCH). Even when forearm rests and aero extensions are oriented at the same height, the UCI fears that riders using 'two-level' bars will simply be able to move their elbows down to the base bar below, thus effectively angling their forearms upwards and shielding their torsos with their hands for a more aerodynamic position." I see these new TT bikes with no rise off the headset, just bars aerobars extending from the top tube straight out and it causes me physical pain. They look fantastic but Im a bit too tall to be riding one. Now you see riders on the new bikes with risers coming off of the base bars to the aerobars adding some stack height in order to fit these super aggressive frames and, according to UCI rules, those are illegal too. Apparently though, you can ask for an exemption and the UCI will issue it. UCI is just plain stupid.
Its not to make up for a too long or too short stem. I rode a 90mm stem but had serious numbness issues as it was forcing me to be too cramped in position and I instinctively slid back on the saddle. I sit right on the nose of the ISM like youre supposed to and am extremely comfortable there with the 100mm stem. Anything shorter and I am way too cramped.