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Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET
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Trailer video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frSCiyU7mC8

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No mountains, no obstacles, no finish line. Just a flat track and 24 hours on the clock. After months of preparation, the time has finally come. Starting Friday, November 27th at 10.30am CET, Kilian Jornet will race against five top-level athletes for 24 consecutive hours on a quiet track in Norway. Watch Kilian make this attempt LIVE here: https://www.salomon.com/phantasm24
Any chance he will actually get close to or surpass Yiannis Kouros' record of 303 km set in 1997?
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [aeroyoost] [ In reply to ]
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Kilian doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to set a challenge without having done extensive research and preparation. While his strength is racing vertically, I would be surprised if he didn't come close to challenging the current (horizontal) record.
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [aeroyoost] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, he definitely can, he has probably calculated this attempt to last detail. Jornet doesn't get enough credit for his mental fortitude, he is a beast when it comes to the mental game, which I think this challenge requires.

Just my two cents.
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [aeroyoost] [ In reply to ]
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Yiannis Kouros ran 188.6 miles averaging 7:38 per mile for 24 hours.

The next closest is by Denis Zhalybin at 175 miles.The current record is legendary, one of the most untouchable records ever set.

Kilian or not, thats utterly insane. Kouros’s resume is insane to begin with. Getting in striking distance of that record will be near impossible, but i suppose Kilian is the only person alive who has a chance

Strava
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [DaniD] [ In reply to ]
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DaniD wrote:
Yes, he definitely can, he has probably calculated this attempt to last detail. Jornet doesn't get enough credit for his mental fortitude, he is a beast when it comes to the mental game, which I think this challenge requires.

Just my two cents.


Conversely, while not discrediting Jornet, I don't think you're paying due recognition to either Kouros or his achievements if you consider Jornet likely to nail this on the first attempt.

Kouros is not only the greatest ultra runner the world has ever seen, he is possibly among three or four people who would be considered as the most dominant athlete in any sport by objective measures of performance. Kouros' performances sit so far beyond anyone else.

Kouros' 303km WR has stood for over 23 years. No one has run within 20km of it. Kouros holds the top 11 performances of all time.

This is an event that is measureable, repeatable and contested the world over. An event where the IAU has long held regular World Championships. It's not like Zach Bitter plucking off the rarely contested and relatively obscure 100 mile record.

Yet the nearest runner in the history of the event is almost 1km/hr slower than Kouros. Take a moment to think about the implications of that. Against every other elite performance there has ever been, if those runners were sharing the athletic track with Kouros, he would be lapping the entire field at least twice every hour, for the entire 24 hours.

Kouros had numerous attempts to push his world mark beyond 300 km when he was at the height of dominance. This is the type of running in which he specialised and 300 still didn't come easily. It wasn't a one-off project for Kouros . It was a culmination of 14 years of being the best ultra runner the world has seen.

I really can't imagine Kilian coming off his patch and simply grabbing this. But I'm genuinely curious to see how he does. Then we'll know if he's a chance. And if he is, I'd love to see Kilian and Zach line up for a serious shot at it.
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [satanellus] [ In reply to ]
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satanellus wrote:
DaniD wrote:
Yes, he definitely can, he has probably calculated this attempt to last detail. Jornet doesn't get enough credit for his mental fortitude, he is a beast when it comes to the mental game, which I think this challenge requires.

Just my two cents.


Conversely, while not discrediting Jornet, I don't think you're paying due recognition to either Kouros or his achievements if you consider Jornet likely to nail this on the first attempt.

Kouros is not only the greatest ultra runner the world has ever seen, he is possibly among three or four people who would be considered as the most dominant athlete in any sport by objective measures of performance. Kouros' performances sit so far beyond anyone else.

Kouros' 303km WR has stood for over 23 years. No one has run within 20km of it. Kouros holds the top 11 performances of all time.

This is an event that is measureable, repeatable and contested the world over. An event where the IAU has long held regular World Championships. It's not like Zach Bitter plucking off the rarely contested and relatively obscure 100 mile record.

Yet the nearest runner in the history of the event is almost 1km/hr slower than Kouros. Take a moment to think about the implications of that. Against every other elite performance there has ever been, if those runners were sharing the athletic track with Kouros, he would be lapping the entire field at least twice every hour, for the entire 24 hours.

Kouros had numerous attempts to push his world mark beyond 300 km when he was at the height of dominance. This is the type of running in which he specialised and 300 still didn't come easily. It wasn't a one-off project for Kouros . It was a culmination of 14 years of being the best ultra runner the world has seen.

I really can't imagine Kilian coming off his patch and simply grabbing this. But I'm genuinely curious to see how he does. Then we'll know if he's a chance. And if he is, I'd love to see Kilian and Zach line up for a serious shot at it.

Thanks for the very informative post. I was a bit stunned about someone (anyone!) holding the top eleven performances because I wouldn’t even know that someone would try this more than once, or maybe twice.

As for the idea that Jornet, or anyone, would have planned a 24-hour race down to the last detail; 1) I guess I’d hope so! 2) As Mike Tyson said, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

Anyway, you guys got me excited to follow this and to learn more about the history, so thanks for that.
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [aeroyoost] [ In reply to ]
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Holy ***** When I first read it, I thought he was on a bike.................:0)
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [aeroyoost] [ In reply to ]
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How bad can you actually plan something? This bad I suppose!
Wired live stream, this was supposed to be Salomon's roadshoe launch event.

The track is frozen!!! Yes frozen!!! They have heated up 2 inner tracks, complete fail.
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [DieselPete] [ In reply to ]
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his projected pace is currently well faster (~10%) than the record, but it's quite early days. i think about 1.5 hours in?

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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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iron_mike wrote:
his projected pace is currently well faster (~10%) than the record, but it's quite early days. i think about 1.5 hours in?

Well Kilian and leader are both on pace to about 3hrs for first marathon :)

Going hard from start it seems. Impressed if they dont fall completely apart with this opening! (Allthough I read somewhere that Yanis Kouros also had a sub3 hr marathon split within his 24h record!
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [lassekk] [ In reply to ]
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lassekk wrote:
How bad can you actually plan something? This bad I suppose!

Wired live stream, this was supposed to be Salomon's roadshoe launch event.

The track is frozen!!! Yes frozen!!! They have heated up 2 inner tracks, complete fail.


Fail??

Looks like a nice day in Norway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pidI0DEBZI4




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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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Through 100km in 7hrs 25mins
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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Halvard wrote:
lassekk wrote:
How bad can you actually plan something? This bad I suppose!

Wired live stream, this was supposed to be Salomon's roadshoe launch event.

The track is frozen!!! Yes frozen!!! They have heated up 2 inner tracks, complete fail.


Fail??

Looks like a nice day in Norway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pidI0DEBZI4




If it's 0 degrees at 11 am, the we both know it will get freezing cold during the night! Ice cold feet etc. Is not optimal for running or energy usage.
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [aeroyoost] [ In reply to ]
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Just tuned in and looks like he's down. Someone said he threw up and then went down.
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [lassekk] [ In reply to ]
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Not confirmed but looks like Killian's attempt is done.
It's been stopped and needing help for past few minutes.
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [lassekk] [ In reply to ]
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I dont understand why there would even be an attempt of this caliber in such sub optimal conditions

Strava
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [rsjrv99] [ In reply to ]
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Meanwhile Kouros commenced to whining about the shoes. I'm not a fan of what's going on with the shoes either but they're legal under current rules so boohoo. Not a good look for Kouros.

https://runningmagazine.ca/...orld-record-attempt/
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [BlackStumpGumby] [ In reply to ]
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BlackStumpGumby wrote:
Meanwhile Kouros commenced to whining about the shoes. I'm not a fan of what's going on with the shoes either but they're legal under current rules so boohoo. Not a good look for Kouros.

https://runningmagazine.ca/...orld-record-attempt/
Killian ran in the new Salomon phantasm do they even have a carbon plate in them?
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [BlackStumpGumby] [ In reply to ]
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BlackStumpGumby wrote:
Meanwhile Kouros commenced to whining about the shoes. I'm not a fan of what's going on with the shoes either but they're legal under current rules so boohoo. Not a good look for Kouros.

https://runningmagazine.ca/...orld-record-attempt/

He is fortunate they don’t pay runners the same as they pay pro football, basketball, soccer and baseball players
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [lassekk] [ In reply to ]
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no - as i understand it they're actually pretty minimal flats.

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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [rsjrv99] [ In reply to ]
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rsjrv99 wrote:
I dont understand why there would even be an attempt of this caliber in such sub optimal conditions


Why not? Publicity stunt, can't travel due to covid, Kilian rarely does anything the easy way. I interpreted it as "let's see what I can do." He's not a triathlete, so why wait for perfect conditions. Give it a shot and see what happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NxXh3UqpAE&t=136s&ab_channel=SalomonTV

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also rule 5
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [boobooaboo] [ In reply to ]
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boobooaboo wrote:
rsjrv99 wrote:
I dont understand why there would even be an attempt of this caliber in such sub optimal conditions


Why not? Publicity stunt, can't travel due to covid, Kilian rarely does anything the easy way. I interpreted it as "let's see what I can do." He's not a triathlete, so why wait for perfect conditions. Give it a shot and see what happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NxXh3UqpAE&t=136s&ab_channel=SalomonTV

I know Kilian is well adjusted to extreme weather, I love his videos, but this attempt was essentially at sub-freezing temperatures

Such an attempt is incredibly biologically stressful as it is, let alone at those temps. I imagine the amount of energy lost just through thermogenesis was fairly substantial, add in 24 hours of breathing cold, dry air and other cold-stress factors, it's just seems a bit extreme...

This wasn't just any record, it's Kourus's 24 hour record, and to break that would at the least require pretty perfect conditions. I do hope he tries it again

Strava
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [aeroyoost] [ In reply to ]
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I happened to watch the live stream briefly pretty early on - after the 1st marathon, before the 1st 100k. The two announcers were unintentionally funny, reporting that Kilian was 'in the toilet'. Initially, I thought that that meant that his times were not looking good, but, in fact, he was in the bathroom. Why funny? They are trying to fill otherwise dead air and kept saying 'yes, he's in the toilet'. Then the other announcer said 'he's been in the toilet quite a lot, maybe 3 or 4 times already'. And then the two announcers look at each other, very concerned expressions. As, it turned out, to be correct to worry. Bottom line is that something was up with him well before he stopped, it seems...
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [giorgitd] [ In reply to ]
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When I was 20, I was in a music class at university & in walks this guy & I thought "hmm, where do I know him from?".
We all had to sign in & he was one place ahead of me in the line, so when it was my turn to sign, I looked above my name & it said 'Yiannis Kouros'.

Apparently he would go into a trance-like state when he was running on the track..
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Re: Kilian Jornet 24h Track Attempt - November 27th at 10:30am CET [NAB777] [ In reply to ]
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NAB777 wrote:
Apparently he would go into a trance-like state when he was running on the track..

I go into a trance-like state every time my wife speaks to me. And I've been married 19 years. 24 hours, no sweat ;-)
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